Live Blog: District 308 School Board Meeting of Feb. 27
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- February 27, 2012
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Donna Thill
10:31 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
I cannot believe what I just heard Mrs Pasteris utter at the BOE mtng! How dare you say, with confidence, that Lakewood Creek residents have no right to any particular junior high school. Her reason being... "it's fair bc they knew moving there that there was no jr high in their area. ".
Thank you to Mr Scarmuzzi who, once again, was the voice of reason in response.
Kristina
7:04 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I agree, I don't live in that area, but her comments were horrendous. So if you aren't blessed to have a school built in your neighborhood to bad for you, we as a board don't care how many times you get moved.
Andrew King
11:28 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
They should all be ashamed of their unprofessional behavior. All the jokes and giggling are unprofessional
Robyn Vickers
6:16 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@Donna, those of us sitting at the meeting were shocked when she admitted that she believes one neighborhood has precedence over another.
Jane Enviere
12:59 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I didn't find it that shocking. I'm not necessarily a fan of hers, but I don't think it's unreasonable to see that when you don't really have any significant proximity to a school, you can end up a couple of places by bus. Especially when you are overflowing with kids. Even if she meant it that way, I have to chuckle at the outrage because heaven knows there are plenty of subdivisions around here that feel that way themselves. lol
Robyn Vickers
3:33 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I agree that when you don't have a school across the street, you might have to travel. But to say just because some houses have been here longer, they get preferential treatment is wrong, especially when when she was elected to represent the district as a whole, not just "Old Oswego."
Jane Enviere
4:32 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I think it's an agree to disagree situation. And there are various interpretations - what she said made sense to me. It didn't make sense to displace the downtown area, IMO. I don't care what anyone says - it's human nature to have bias. Every single person involved in this, at any level, had a bias. And it wasn't just "what's best for all kids". Which is fine. It's to be expected, in my opinion.
At any rate, like I"ve said before - what messed this up was this love affair with neighborhood schools and feeder systems. I hope they reconsider this the next go around. And with luck - we won't have to worry about it. This has pretty much solidifed our position that this district has gone from adequate to a disaster.
Robyn Vickers
5:07 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I don't know. Maybe it's because I was sitting there in person watching her expressions. Maybe it is my personal bias because of watching her make ridiculous statements and push her personal agenda the past several months. But watching her repeatedly say "those kids" from Lakewood Creek (from Montgomery, natch) had less of a right to Traughber than the downtown kids was so wrong to me. All I know is that she apparently has prioritized which neighborhoods are more deserving of certain schools and that is repulsive no matter who says it and what neighborhood and/or school is being discussed.
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the feeder system. 13 elementary schools into 5 junior highs into 2 high schools does not compute, especially when the capacities vary so greatly within each level. The next round of boundaries is going to be painful for a lot more people, but I believe it will ultimately be a much longer-term solution. (at least I hope so!) :)
Andy
7:56 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
The behavior of the board demonstrated how unprofessional and incompetent they are. There is no excuse for being so visibly unprepared for the boundary discussion, as the numbers, documents, and proposals have been in the public domain for weeks. The laughing and joking about the situation was very inappropriate. What's more, the personal agendas of several of the board members were transparently on display. I have real concerns about the ability of this board to choose a successor to Dr. O'Donnell.
JMH
8:23 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Agree with Andrew! Things are not going well at 308!
Maria
11:25 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Have MONTGOMERY build you your OWN schools. Then they won't have to up root all the kids that ACTUALLY live in OSWEGO. Things are going bad at 308 because the other cities like Montgomery and Aurora should not be going to Oswego schools.
Kevin
9:10 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Maria, it's a SCHOOL district, not a TOWN district. We in MONTGOMERY pay probably MORE money in taxes (in the newer homes) than those in OLD OSWEGO! You forgot to add that PLAINFIELD also feeds into 308...don't be so closed minded.
M.D.
11:43 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@ Maria - NEWS FLASH*** Montgomery residents pay taxes to the OSWEGO school district.
Elizabeth Braun Wilke
2:50 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Let me double down on that NEWSFLASH and remind her that over here in my part of Aurora I pay my TAXES (thousands and thousands) to the DISTRICT 308 OSWEGO school board!
Dnb3kids
12:24 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@maria-That was so ignorant. The district boundaries are the boundaries. We use to live in Lakewood valley. My kids attended Homestead and then Wolf's Crossing. When we looked for a bigger home for our growing family we purposely looked for a home in 308. Now we are in Saratoga Springs and I hear the board talking about our neighborhood like we're 2nd class citizens! I was
Dnb3kids
12:31 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
I was beyond shocked to hear the comments about breaking up our area because "we knew what we were getting when we bought homes there"????? Saratoga Springs and Lakewood Creek and the other neighborhoods in montgomery need to become more involved and get representation on that board! Not to mention DIVERSITY on the board would be nice!!!
Maria
12:34 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@ Dnb3kids you would be the ignorant one. Because I know it's the boundaries. What i'm say is build your OWN school District. Then you will quit messing with our kids who deserve to stay in their schools.
Noel Wolf
8:22 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
...but this IS our school district! What do you mean build our own? We did. Just because Oswego got its name on the billboard doesn't mean other communities aren't welcome. Last I checked Montgomery, Plainfield, Aurora, and Oswego are all a part of the taxpaying community that pays for and attends these schools. If you would like we could change the name to something non-committal like "Indian Prairie School District 204"...like they do across the road in the "Naperville schools".
Kevin
9:12 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Maria..it's hard to take you seriously when you write ignorant things like "What i'm say is" C'mon! Like that's an option. Good thing YOU'RE not on the board!
JMH
12:44 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Yeah, thats the solution Maria! Get real! We pay taxes into the district too and not all Oswego schools are in Oswego!!
Maria
8:19 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
GET REAL? How about get smart. I don't want you to pay Oswego taxes if you live in Aurora and Montgomery. Pay your taxes to your OWN city so you can stay out of our schools and go to your own.
Kevin
9:14 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
True! Wolf's Crossing, Bednarcik and Murphy are in Aurora and Plainfield. Let's take them out of HER district and see how they are able to cope!
Dnb3kids
12:51 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@maria- Ok clearly you are not a parent... I won't waste my time.
Attending the meeting last night was an eye opener and Montgomery residents of dist 308 need to make sure we have a voice!
Maria
1:54 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Clearly I am a parent of 3 children that have been affected by this bull. So don't assume.. Aurora has an established district, so stay out of ours. And if Montgomery is getting bigger and needs a place to put THEIR kids build your OWN schools and pay your taxes to Montgomery.
Jane Enviere
2:07 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@Maria - do you understand how districts are established? You don't just up and make your own schools. And you do realize that Aurora residents, for the record, goes to several districts.
Elizabeth Braun Wilke
2:57 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Thanks Jane. I am an Aurora resident and the schools my children attend are in Aurora BUT those schools are under the 308 boundaries which I pay my taxes to. Aurora residents have at least 4 different school districts within their city limits. I feel horrible for the kids getting moved around, who have to travel further, who have to leave their "home" school. I am fighting for my elementary kids and supporting the other parents trying to stay close to home too. The "name" of my city doesn't matter one bit if I am in the district boundaries.
Dnb3kids
2:42 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
@maria - you claim Oswego as if you were a founder...relax. Your tone is one that creates an us against them. I think we all want our kids to go to a neighborhood school. We are walking distance from Lakewood but my kids are bussed to Boulder Hill. We are ALL affected!!
Maria
8:29 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
THANK YOU!
Elizabeth Braun Wilke
3:01 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
YES! My friend in *saratoga springs said the same thing. She was okay with Boulder Hill though b/c it was such a supportive school. I think we all want essentially the same thing and we should support each other.
Walt Hines
6:34 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Maria, as my kids would say "chill". Don't start dragging all of Oswego into your comments. I DISAGREE with you 100%. These families pay taxes to our school district and I would add a hefty sum. Unless you or your family has been here ( I have) all your life you look as an outsider to some of us.
I would like to remind you that they shop at our stores and patronize the businesses here, which in turn brings more money into the general fund. Your comments tea-tor on being racial and there's no place for that here. If you don't like what we have you could move like anyone else. Last time I checked we live in the U.S.A. and we all have rights until you do something to have them taken away. Diversify your thinking, it's good for the soul.
Maria
8:25 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
LMAO!!! I disagree with you 100% . I have lived here all my life and all of my children are in the 308 district as they should be. They have NEVER been up rooted until these Montgomery residents and Aurora residents believe their entitled. Just drop it already. In two years you will all be moved again so get over it. Common Sense it's good for the soul.
Walt Hines
9:07 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Maria, " You will all be moved again so get over it" I'm an Oswego resident and have been all my life. I have my doubts about you. You should know that Montgomery has been part of our school system from day one. The area north of 34 and south of 30 from many moons ago were always 308. Being a native of Oswego as you say, you need to brush up on your facts.
Instead of you taking your anger out on these people you really should blame the village, the builders and the farmers who sold their "OWN" land so all these subdivisions could be built. Word of caution, I'd proceed cautiously when you attack the farmers, they don't take kindly when told what they can and can't do with their property.
Jane Enviere
8:28 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
LOL -- I think I smell a troll. At least I hope so. If not, it would be wise to stop spewing nonsense. And I hope this person isn't a product of Oswego 308.
Take Aurora for an example -- off the top of my head, a resident with an Aurora address could be attending a school in the East Aurora district, the West Aurora district, the Oswego district, or the Indian Prairie 204 district. Is this really news to people? lol
JMH
8:48 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
exactly jane. I believe part of aurora also attends batavia schools. you have naperville going to aurora schools. lisle going to naperville schools.
softballmom
9:07 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
@Maria : HERE ARE THE FACTS: District 308 schools in KANE COUNTY demonstrated high achievement on the 2010 ISAT, even with the largest class size and the lowest spending per pupil. (Source: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2010/Best-Elementary-Schools-Kane-County/)
School WITHIN KANE COUNTY
District 308 schools outperformed what percentage of the 128 schools within KANE COUNTY?
Homestead Elementary School - AURORA
88%
Wolf’s Crossing Elementary School - AURORA
76%
The Wheatlands Elementary School - AURORA
71%
Bednarcik Junior High School - AURORA
58%
http://www.oswego308.org/assets/5/news/fact_check1.pdf
MY GUESS IS IF WE COMPARED REAL ESTATE TAX BILLS, WE PAY MORE HERE IN AURORA TOWARDS OSWEGO 308 THEN YOU......WAKE UP LADY OR MOVE.
Kevin
9:56 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
Maria, you are a nasty, ignorant, rude person! No wonder you don't post your last name...you'd be having to watch your back! You make parents look bad! Grow up and act your age, unless you're one of those 18 year olds with 3 kids, then you're acting appropriately.
Kathy
11:43 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
I can't believe that I am reading in this comments section. Maria -- you have taken this discussion to an all time low point. There is nothing constructive or beneficial about your comments. Nothing you have written is intelligent conversation, just hateful remarks and small-minded, racist and derogatory comments.
Mike
3:23 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
Maria is a troll!
crystal
6:42 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
In regards to Maria, I think we are all asking you to stop being hatefull and reacist. Your suggestions are never going to become reality and nor should they. We are a community not individual towns as you see it. Its parents like yourself when you say the things you say, that I am hoping you are not feeding this down to your children so they can carry the same hatered into OUR school and to all the other children. Thats when bullys become bullys and it goes back to the home...always! Please stop being so hateful, and if you dont like all the towns that create this school district, then maybe you should homeshcool and then you will be your own little district and your kids wont have to worry about anyone else being a part of them. you'll be alone. We clearly see that decisions have been made that are upsetting many people and familys, its sad but its happening. We all are going to to through this differently...I know I am I have my moments too. I thnk in the end though, its going to work our, we are going to meet so many great familys, help eachother out and emotions will begin to take a turn for the better. Lets just be supportive to oneantother and what we are ALL going through and make it positive for our children!! They need that from us, not the anger, hate and ignorance. Anyone?? :)
softballmom
7:16 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
It's the small minded individuals like Maria that make this entire process of boundaries a highly sensitive and frustrating process. Her feelings will be a direct reflection on her kids and that will spill over into the schools and effect other kids unfortunately. Anyone recall a few articles in the past and comments from parents such as her referring to Oswego East as the "ghetto" school? "THAT" side of town vs. "THEIR" side of town? Still hear it today with some of the high schoolers especially....wonder where they got that idea from? hmmm.