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CHA-CHA-KA-CHING, Taxpayer Approved

Documents I recently received through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the KC Coroner's office and County Board Administration reveal:

  • Double charging for auto expenses by a coroner's office employee following a training trip - cost to taxpayers --  Is this a one time issue or ongoing?
  • Purchase by a county employee of an electronic device from a local hardware store to allow TV programs to be watched on computers. Is this used during work hours?  By whom?
  • Ignoring of County policies and procedures put into place to stop financial mismanagement.

 

http://yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/kckoronerklimek.pdf

Above is another example of wasteful and unmonitored  spending by our county board where “itemized receipts” were intentionally withheld by yet another county-wide elected official, this time it is Kendall County Coroner, Ken Toftoy, (current Kendall County GOP Chairman) who is the elected official responsible for the questionable county coroner’s office expenses and credit card charges incurred by Kendall County Taxpayers. In this government transaction found, not only did we pay to put gas in Kendall County Deputy Coroner Mike Klimek’s car three times on this St. Louis “Training” trip, for a total of $211.00, (See page 4 of 25, pages 9, 10, and 11 of 25 for gas receipts that total $211.00) but we, the county taxpayer, were also soaked three days later for this same “training” trip again by Deputy Coroner, Mike Klimek. Mike claimed an additional $260.00 for 520 miles of mileage for this exact same “training” trip to St. Louis. (See Pages 1, 2, 3 of 3) http://yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/kckoronermileage.pdf We taxpayers were required to pay twice for one ”training” trip.

I am not aware of any private sector company that pays their employees for both gas and mileage for employee training trips, nor does the IRS recognize this practice. I asked one former county board member about this practice on Saturday and his response was that it was highly unusual. It now appears it was acceptable with Mrs. Purcell. She also looks to be the one responsible for withholding the itemized credit card receipts for this voucher. Mrs. Purcell clearly is one party responsible for submitting the “double dip” $1259.36 “training” credit card voucher, which she signed off on 4-21-2011;(page 3 of 25) three days after Mr. Klimek already had submitted his 4-18-2011 “mileage” voucher for $260.00. Mr. Klimek knowingly pumped the gas and consciously charged the gas on the county credit card. Then Mr. Klimek submitted the $260.00 mileage voucher after pumping the gas, which in my opinion shows a purposeful effort to take advantage of us, county taxpayers.

Where is the county elected official oversight and review? Ken Toftoy is ultimately responsible for the bills generated and submitted by his employees, but where is he at and what is he doing?

Please note the Kendall County Board Finance Committee only reviewed the four-page voucher that included the $1259.36 in charges and the three page 4-4-2011 FIRST BANKCARD Credit Card summary statement. (Pages 3, 4, 5 and 6 of 25) Note all the original itemized receipts for this credit card bill were exclusively retained at the Kendall County Coroner’s Office. (Page 6 of 25 and for a different 4-4-2011 credit card summary bill, page 25 of 25) Those itemized receipts for this monthly credit card bill, the ones that were actually itemized receipts, were not made available for county board review by the Coroner’s Office. The Kendall County Finance Committee did not actually review any itemized receipts for this particular claim because the receipts in question were all still at the coroner’s office, yet during this monthly meeting, this claim was approved for payment. A violation of the 3-8-2008 Invoice Submittal:Procedures and Documentation Policy,

http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/sheriff/brdreqfreceipt.
[See page 11 of 12 for county policy, also see page 2 of 12 (9-20-2010 Sheriff
Dept. memo) and page 12 of 12 (11-3-2009 elected official’s memo)]

This county “itemized receipt” policy http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/sheriff/auditfind122707.pdf  ) has been ignored by both the Kendall County Sheriff’s Dept. and Mrs. Purcell’s husband, the former 2006-2010 Kendall County Board Finance Committee Chairman. John Purcell is now our current Kendall County Board Chairman. It is again and now appears to be an ongoing problem for us county taxpayers and this practice of elected officials withholding itemized receipts continues unabated.

Another example, on this very same bill, seen on Page 14 of 25 is where only the signed composite credit card charges were submitted by Mr. Klimek for credit card charges on 3-14-2011 at Carmine’s Steak House for $54.50 and on 3-16-2011 at the Brewhouse for $34.46. See Summary Credit Card entries, line item 6 of 17, and line item 10 of 17 on page 4 of 25. These two composite credit card charges were also submitted by Mrs. Purcell and Coroner Ken Toftoy with no itemized receipts. This oversight error could not have been caught because all of the itemized receipts for this trip were exclusively retained and were only on file at the coroner’s office. Since these itemized transactional receipts were not made available to the county finance committee that additional layer of required oversight became impossible. Please note the intent of this policy was to correct a problem identified by the county auditor, Tonya Mack, in Dec. 2007. This “Itemized Receipt” requirement was approved by a majority vote of the Kendall County Board on 3-4-2008 and has been formally adopted to be the current county accounting policy. The intent was to promote public trust in our county government.

(Page 12 of 12, 3rd to last paragraph) http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/sheriff/brdreqfreceipt.pdf

Why was an employee at the Kendall County Coroner’s office, where this credit card bill was exclusively filed, allowed to circumvent official County Accounting Policy? Why was the “itemized receipts” kept exclusively on file at the Kendall Coroner’s Office? Why was the only copy of this credit card bill on file for retention at the Kendall Coroner’s Office? It took my FOIA request to get this bill released to the sunlight of public review. Again, here are county auditor’s 2007 findings for obtaining “itemized receipts” for county employee credit card transactions.

(Page 2 of 2, http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/sheriff/auditfind122707.pdf)

 This Kendall County Board Policy has never been fully adhered to or enforced.

(Page 11 of 12 http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/sheriff/brdreqfreceipt.pdf)

Please note it was Jacquie Purcell, the wife of County Board Chairman, John Purcell, that is the sole person who signed the $1259.36 Klimek credit card voucher, which included the three tanks of charged gas. (Page 3 of 25) John Purcell was the Kendall County Board Finance Committee Chairman from 2006 to 2010; the person the Kendall County Board entrusted to enforce this 3-4-2008 policy and implement the county auditor’s Dec. 2007 findings/recommendations. Now that Mr. Purcell is Kendall County Board Chairman, one can only guess what else is being paid with taxpayer money, without required itemized receipt documentation provided by the Kendall County Coroner’s office.

However, http://yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/kckoronernoresp.pdf who needs a credit card when you have an open county charge account at the Ace Hardware/Radio Shack stores in both Yorkville and Oswego owned by Kendall County Board Chairman, John Purcell. The link provided above is the purchase documentation for a very recent charge made by Kendall County Coroner, Ken Toftoy, at the Yorkville Ace/Radio Shack store on 3-15-2012. Also, please note that the FOIA Reply received on 8-24-2012 (Page 3 of 8) states that this recently purchased electronic item apparently no longer exists. Kendall Coroner FOIA Officer, Jacquie Purcell, declared that there are not any government records for this electronic item or apparently any other electronic items. Please note that in my FOIA request (Page 1 of 8) that I did ask for a complete inventory for all electronic assets possessed by the coroner’s office, and again, the 8-24-2012 FOIA Coroner’s Office reply was deemed non-responsive to my formal, written request for electronic assets owned by the coroner’s office.

Please see and review the 3-15-2012 Ace Invoice # 142799 (page 7 of 8) which was charged on the open ACE/Kendall Coroner’s Charge Account. This receipt is for three electronic items, two items purchased were for some type of laser pet toy and then a much larger purchase was labeled as “PCTV-HD MINI.” Below is the link for this distinctive electronic device purchased at Yorkville Ace/RadioShack on the open Kendall Coroner’s ACE “in-store” charge account. Please note and read the “Pinnacle” brand product description for this specific and unique electronic device, (click to see what its primary function is and what it actually does) then I would encourage you to read some of the product purchaser’s/users reviews for this electronic device to see how it actually functions.

http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-22427-PCTV-Mini-Stick/dp/B001PBKJ9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345227075&sr=8-1&keywords=pinnacle+pctv+usb

My question is why the coroner’s office needed to purchase this PCTV-HD MINI electronic device? What exactly is the specific government need? It makes me wonder if someone at the Kendall County Coroner’s office has so much under utilized time on his or her hands that one feels the need to watch HD-TV on his or her PC or Laptop to help lull the time away while there on the job. After all, when Republican patronage employee, Matt Prochaska, was hired to take Mrs. Purcell’s place from 6-10-2011 to 10-28-2011, Matt Prochaska publicly stated and put it in writing that he only logged 20 hours a week while Mrs. Purcell was absent and was receiving ghost payrolling benefits in 2011. This recent disclosure was made in the comment section by Mr. Prochaska of my last Patch blog. Mrs. Purcell is salaried, currently scheduled to work 40 hours a week and is a full-time county employee with very generous county benefits where her medical benefits alone cost county taxpayers $12,224.44.

 http://montgomery.patch.com/blog_posts/ka-ching-kendall-county-tax-payer-approved-33654974

The question now becomes, who is the one watching HDTV on their county computer and for how many hours a week, is it coroner Ken Toftoy or Admin. Deputy Coroner Purcell?

blue gil

12:03 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

i have got to get me a government job. look at all the perks. i can take a trip to a nice city, eat well, and then make a profit on it. i could have my husband start up a business, and then i can go purchase items from that business for the government. the best part is the suckers aren't bothering to look, for the most part.

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Tim

12:59 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

It's fascinating how all these FOIA requests all just happen to be for political opponents of Todd Milliron, who beat him in the last election.

If you want anyone to take you seriously(although that boat has sailed a LONG time ago), show us all the FOIA requests you put in for your political allies as well. Allies like Anne Vickery, who actually APPROVED every single payout you are bringing up, in her duties as chair of the finance committee.

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Stephen Youhanaie

1:29 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

HI Tim,

Did Todd run against Toftoy in the primary? I think not. However, Todd has saved the taxpayers $5500 (FY2013 budget proposal requested by the coroner) that I know of since Mr. Toftoy cut his cell phones out by half ($2500 per year in savings). Also, Mr. Toftoy cut his training expense budget to $3000, from $6000. A couple of years ago (when nobody was looking) Mr. Toftoy exceeded his party, excuse me, training expenses budget and charged the county over $7800. These are numbers provided to the county by Mr. Toftoy himself, at the County Finance meeting last Tuesday. John Purcell was in charge of the Finance Committee that year ($7800). Just think, Todd will have saved the taxpayers at least $22,000 in the next 4 year term of the coroner. How much more will he save us?

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Tim

6:54 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Like I said, his allies. Of which, Mr. Dabney, is one. Perhaps you noticed he is the one running against the current coroner. Todd has given his support to Mr. Dabney, and literally works for the campaign. Todd can be found handing out flyers to support Mr. Dabney on any given weekend.

Like I said, Todd would have a LOT more supporters if his actions were not so incredibly transparent. If he was really 'looking out for the taxpayers', why did he just happen to leave out all of his political allies from his requests?

Todd hasn't 'saved' you a single penny. He holds no position of authority whatsoever to make those decisions. Or are you honestly going to say the actions that you like of the elected officials are actually Todds doing, but the actions you don't like are their own doing?

Oswegosmarts

2:10 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Tim
I don't know you but when Todd puts up infomation(legal documents) you always seem to turn it inot a pesonal attack againt Todd. It is obvious that these are legitiment items where theft of taxpayer money has occured. Why are you trying to defend these actions. I thank Todd for bringing this to our attention and anyone else who is watching out for our money but how many more times can this go on. Our elected officials are not there for us they are using our taxdollars as one big party chest. Weis should start prosecuting these people. I am getting tired of we made a mistake, or we didn't know, answers. This is theft, and nothing else. The county board is elected to do what's best for the taxpayers, and when a non elected taxpayer can bring all of these cases of theft forward, then the elected officials are a part of it also.

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Tim

2:57 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

When Todd decides to hold his political allies to the same standard, I will take him seriously. It's obvious his motivations are selfish political ones, disguised to look like he is 'looking out for you'.

Feel free to show the FOIA requests he made for the person who is actually responsible for approving these payouts. I could care less who makes the requests, I want to know who signed off on them as valid and paid them out, and why.

That person is Anne Vickery, a political ally of Todd. Yet Todd is focused on who made the requests, and not who authorized them. Again, it also just so happens that those who he is requesting this information on, are his political opponents.

Are you starting to see how embarrassing it would be if he actually brought up the fact that his political ally was the one who actually approved all these payouts? Instead, he is focusing on who made the payout requests, which is utterly and totally transparent political nonsense.

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Travis McGee

4:04 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

So, if I am to understand you correctly, Tim, when someone on a "Training Trip" pays for fuel using a County Credit Card and then also submits the mileage for reimbursement, this to you is an acceptable practice so long as the accounting person approves it?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED at your accusations that Mr. Milliron's FOIA requests were motivated by (gasp) POLITICS! (imagine that!) As turnabout in politics is fair play, if you are really interested in outing Anne Vickery, why don't you pay the tab for the FOIA and get the records yourself. Of course, the point is mute since Anne Vickery has already been voted out of office in the primary (and I say good riddance).

The political motivations of Mr. Milliron do not make the activities found in the FOIA requests any less abhorrent. Anne Vickery may have been complicit in "signing off" on the misdeeds, but now it's time for Kendall County voters to rid ourselves of the perpetrators of these unscrupulous activities.

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Tim

7:00 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Travis,
Todd lost the election, and Anne Vickery as a current office holder failed to even win the nomination to appear on the next election ballot.

The voters of Kendall county are not as stupid as Todd or you like to think they are. Todd has been playing his games long enough for the majority of people to understand what he is doing. While you are focusing on $40 steak dinners, important things like the crumbling infrastructure of your county goes unaddressed. What the voters see, is a severely skewed version of priorities that they want no presence of in an elected position.

Todd can play petty personal politics all day long for all I care, it will keep him in exactly the same position he is in now, and exactly where the large majority of voters think he should stay... a sore loser ankle-biter, with no real power whatsoever.

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Travis McGee

10:30 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Tim,

"While you are focusing on $40 steak dinners, important things like the crumbling infrastructure of your county goes unaddressed."

I think the steak was a lot more expensive than $40 and you also forgot to mention the Escargot appetizer. I also fail to understand how allowing Ken Toftoy and his cronies to continue these escapades, as you seem to advocate, does anything to address a crumbling infrastructure.

Maybe if we get rid of the "Good Ole Boys," we can elect people who will actually work towards the betterment of Kendall County instead of working on bettering themselves and their friends at taxpayer expense.

I appreciate that you keep posting to this thread as it keeps bumping this to the top and provides more visibility to the issue.

Kibitzer

2:11 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Having read this information that Mr. Milliron provided, I have to say, "hurray for you and the work you do!" Can't get involved in all that myself, just to old and tired, but am so grateful that some people do care enough to try to make the spenders have to make account of themselves and their self-indulgence.

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Katy K

4:09 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Show me the proof you have against Todd, he shows all his facts...why don't you do the same. Thanks again Todd for all you do for Kendall County! My vote is going to count!!!

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Stephen Youhanaie

5:39 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Ken Toftoy is questioned by the Kendall County Finance Committee for padding, or gaming his budget lines items. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

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Stephen Youhanaie

9:40 am on Friday, August 31, 2012

Blue Gil,
You are off topic, and any implications of Mr. Toftoy's pecadillos are way out of bounds, even if you have proof. This is about the Kendall County taxpayers being taken for a ride, not Mr. Toftoy riding a bereaved widow. Personal failings have nothing to do with the Coroner's race. We all fall short, according to the Bible.

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Got duped

9:56 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012

Todd,
Good work!! No matter what is motivating you, the facts are clear and so are the documents! If everyone got along I don't think anyone would be looking for the wrong doings in Kendall County! If someone has documented wrong doings of Todd's associates then put them on here for all to see! Isn't that what politics is all about?

I do find it disturbingly funny that many of the county employees have the last name of Purcell?? lol... talk about keeping it in the family! I wonder if someone were to really look at the common family relationship of the employees in Kendall, how many would there be?? No one is gonna "rat" out their family member, right?

Tim... you just go ahead and keep on fueling Todd's fire, because it apparently keeps Todd digging for the next wrong doing to document. Thank u

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Got duped

9:56 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012

BTW, (off subject) how did you guys like the 10% property tax rate? Its always nice to have your mortgage payments almost match your taxes!! I'm sure all the foreclosed houses and high taxes will just bring the masses of possible corporations and homeowners to share in the glory!!! Look at all the things to do here in Kendall County like... umm.. Oh, I know... we can walk around the lavish county buildings and fire stations!! So much for downtown Oswego being the next Downtown Naperville!!

Todd, can you work on getting the county to use a THIRD PARTY to assess the properties instead of COUNTY assessors!! Kendall is 26th out of 3000 counties with the highest taxes in the COUNTRY!

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Michelle

10:19 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

Good Job Todd! Shame on everyone in Kendall County who uses the tax payers dollars to steal from your neighbors. I will never step foot in Mr. Purcell's Ace Hardware store again. You are stealing from your neighbors and from the children in Kendall County, grow up and do things right!

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Jake Delrose

12:32 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

HAaaaa! Milliron is so funny..... He supports a guy that had his house foreclosed on in 2010! So much for being honest in information, right Mr. Milliron? If all of these bad things are going on in this office and Milliron is the savior for the taxpayer, I'm sure he has asked what these expenses were for before making accusations? No, why do that! It might show that nothing happened and that detracts from these pitiful articles the patch puts up for this clown.

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Jake Delrose

12:34 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

Hey Milliron have any info about that foreclosure on the candidate that you support but disguise yourself as being the patron saint of the taxpayer?

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Oswegosmarts

10:09 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

What does this have to do with the article. I watched the video provided by the post earlier (stephen youhanine) and was shocked to see that this man has been the coroner for over 20 years and has no clue about his budget.

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Jake Delrose

10:53 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

I watched the video too. Seems the issue is not the person operating the post. i.e. Toftoy. But the lack of common sense on the board members knowledge of operating procedures for Labor Laws. A legal adviser to the county said don't do this, but the lady in the background does not understand who this person is and has to be told, but she still looks lost. Also seems like to board has a little more say so in the Coroners budget. Ever think that's why he might not know all of the budget allowances due to it getting set by the board? I doubt it.

Oswegosmarts

10:05 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

I don't understand why some of these people who post on patch have to attack Todd on a personal level. Like him or hate him, who his political allies are, or are not, have nothing to do with the information he has discovered. I don't care who the messenger is, read the message. I don't care who has had his house forclosed,or any of that stupid nonsense. The information are public records, and if they are stealing from the taxpayers they need to be held accountable period. So the people who try to deflect away from the information by name calling need to understand that this is corrupt. Every taxing body in Oswego, and Kendall County has some form of wastefull spending that could be stopped.

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Jake Delrose

11:12 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

It's not a hate issue, it's a deception issue with Milliron. He never gives you the whole story just part and creates a narrative that resembles a fiction story. I'm sure this whole fiscal responsibility thing is not a grudge match at all...Sure. Let's see. First it was the Sheriff's office and Milliron backed Lea, now it's the Coroner's office and Milliron backs Dabney...See a pattern here. And another thing, How much have these witch hunt FOIA's cost the county taxpayers that came up with nothing??? Milliron?? Blue Gil? Oswegomarts? Michelle? Got Duped? (Seems like the appropriate name for you since you cheer on Todd) and Youhanaie? Seems like you guys have this insight that is blind. Care to share the whole truth? Your true issue is the communication between board and departments including certain members on the board having little clue on what to do that is legal and correct.

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Tim

1:01 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Who his allies are has nothing to do with the 'information' he has discovered? Is that why he never discovers(or even requests) information on a single one of his allies?

Todd has a history of backing the loser in every single race, yet he has not put 2 and 2 together yet to figure out that these people keep losing BECAUSE Todd is the one backing them.

Can't wait to see the bill for that audit that Todd demanded of his opponents on the board. $10K of your tax money well spent, so Todd can back another losing candidate.

Jake Delrose

10:11 am on Monday, September 3, 2012

Blue gil,
2005?! You bring up something that is irrelevant as that. This is a race between two people, the person wanting the job and the guy who has it. One guy has another supporting him and is hiding the fact that he has a foreclosure but touts fiscal responsibility. The definition of the hypocrite.

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Jake Delrose

1:21 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

How does this guy's issues have anything to do with the coroner's budget or race?? Trying to some how connect the two...... Oh a person that works in the office is the spouse of this guy. How low can one person go? Blue gil found it

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Todd Milliron

4:04 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Fred Rogers commented 8:20 Monday Sept. 3, 2012 on your blog post, CHA-CHA-KA-CHING, Taxpayer Approved:

"Jake does make a good point......Milliron is a hypocritical political hack. I seem to remember him publicly excoriating Purcell over that, and now he's eerily silent. But that's always the story with him. It's not about ethics, or fairness or honesty - just about who he can smear to help a political ally."

Fred, please see the link http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/kcb/purcell/propertytax.pdf and documented proof of my statements, I only referenced and discussed Mr. Purcell’s failure to pay his property taxes in 2009. Mr. Purcell is still the President and Acting Agent for Harmony Development, Inc. (Sec. of State Cyberdrive File # 60287724) Click and go, enter file # provided http://www.ilsos.gov/corporatellc/CorporateLlcController

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Jake Delrose

12:15 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Again Todd,

How does the actions of Mr. Purcell have anything to do with this race??

Another distraction to get away from:
1. The lack of good personal financing of Mr. Dabney (Home Foreclosure)
2. The little experience on real cases Mr. Dabney has for this department
3. and the made up narratives of FOIA's Mr. Milliron presents to the people, that happen to get duped, and support his candidate that he has never said in this forum of his work directly related to Mr. Dabney's campaign.

Now there is the truth.

Todd Milliron

1:33 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

@Jake, I document what I bring forward, do the same. Blue Gil is correct on playing the foreclosure card; other elected officials in Kendall County Government, plus several county employees have experienced foreclosure. Kendall's foreclosure rate is #1 in Illinois. It is not uncommon; many good county residents have been bitten by an adjustable rate mortgage & exploding property tax rates. We all know someone who has lost their home or is just hanging on by a thread.

You can be part of the problem or part of the solution; Ken Toftoy is the arrogant county poster child for questionable government spending which I have documented.

Mike Dabney is well qualified & chooses to be part of the solution, he feels the pain of us common taxpayers & has developed a well thought out & researched way to reduce the Kendall County Coroner’s Budget by 20 percent without cutting services to family’s dealing with the death of a loved one. That plan is very simple, reduce staff from six deputy coroners to two deputy coroners, & eliminate fulltime office employees with their very generous county benefits that we taxpayers subsidized. If we are going to pay $57,000 annually to someone to be coroner I expect them to earn it, not continue to “Party like it is 1999.” If we are going to control escalating property taxes, it starts with those we elect. There is a clear choice & contrast in the Kendall County Coroner’s race on who can & will control that spending.

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Jake Delrose

1:11 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Ok if your candidate is qualified for the job, how many cases has Mr. Dabney submitted, on file, in the coroner's office for his experience in the six years he was on? Care to share that document, Mr. Milliron?
Because you sure did like to hide the fact that your candidate had a foreclosure on his record and now you are trying to justify it by bringing up irrelevant issues outside of this race. Or is that another distraction that you like bring up to hide other issues your candidate has? So Kendall has a high rate of foreclosure, is that an excuse for a candidate wanting to hold or control the budget of an office to get votes at the expense of the taxpayers? No Way! Keep that guy away.
Want to share some other financial tips Mr. Dabney can help out with since he cannot control his own house budget?
Maybe you want total transparency and disclose Mr. Dabney's household income for the past several years to justify his foreclosure?
I bet there are more skeletons in the closet then you can contain Mr. Milliron.

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Todd Milliron

11:38 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

@Jake,
I did FOIA on 7-10-2012, requesting the number of “coroner calls” information, & asked to have it broken out by the number of calls each deputy coroner took from Fiscal Year-2000-2001 to Fiscal Year-2010-2011, which ended 11-30-2011. The ONLY detailed records for "Call" breakout and annual hours logged by each deputy coroner exists for just one year and was only produced for that one year period of time from 12-1-2002 to 11-30-2003. Here is what was provided by FOIA Officer Purcell for FY 12-1-2002 to 11-30-2003. It is the only fiscal year in the 11 years requested which detailed activity records apparently were tracked and recorded.
Jim Detzler - 5 Calls – 288 hours
Marcy Thompson – 11 Calls -216 hours
Charles (Herb) Walton – 11 Calls – 516 hours
William (Bill) Perkins – 1 Call – 0 hours
Mike Dabney – 12 Calls – 288 hours
Jean Hilger – 0 Calls – 0 hours
Jackie (Marcellis) Purcell – 7 Calls – 142 Hours

Coincidentally, No detailed Call or Hour Records were provided for Coroner Ken Toftoy whose Kendall County Coroner’s Office was $14,000.00 over budget for this 2002-2003 fiscal year.

Feel free to FOIA my 7-10-2012 FOIA which was fulfilled on 7-17-2012, 12 pages total. I will see what I can do to get my computer help person to give me a hyperlink for this 7-10-2012 FOIA so it can be shared with the voting public. I think the electorate will share my concerns regarding current record keeping at the Kendall County Coroner’s Office.

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Tim

12:20 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Where are your FOIA requests for Mr. Dabney when he was a firefighter?

Are you going to stop pretending this has anything to do with 'caring about the taxpayers', and finally admit that you are picking specific political enemies to dig up information on?

Only then will you construct a narrative AFTER you read what was returned, that borders on paranoid delusion.

For all your talk of 'transparency', it is amazing that you can't yet realize that you are the most transparent of them all. After reading just a few posts of yours, almost everyone has been able to see right through you Todd. There is a reason you, and those you throw your support behind, keep getting roundly defeated in elections.

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Jake Delrose

11:34 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

So what was the $14,000 over budget for?? Was it an equipment issue along with other unforeseen issues that can come up with any department? Why just stop at saying $14,000 over just describe what the $14,000 was for...Or you just not want to share and make up another supposed story of mismanagement?

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Jake Delrose

11:39 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

As for the experience... I'm shocked you did not demand to have someone look up the other files for Mr. Dabney's experience. I bet if we do an in depth review of the cases from the other years, we would find Mr. Dabney has very little experience in anything with the Coroner's office. Anyone care to take a trip to the Coroner's office and look through case files?? I have already scheduled myself time off to find out.

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Jake Delrose

11:47 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

And how can Mr. Dabney feel the pain of the other taxpayers? He does not even pay real estate taxes remember? His house was foreclosed on.... Look it up at the Recorders office online. Ask the search to find Dabney. Nothing found. Zero results. So how can he feel the pain in the taxpayers wallet? Good question when you don't even pay into the system.

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Jake Delrose

11:49 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Todd,
Can you FOIA Mr. and Mrs. Dabney's 1040 forms for the past 5 years to see what they made combined and give that to the public? Then explain why they mismanaged their own finances and how Mr. Dabney would be able to do that for a government budget?

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Jake Delrose

9:50 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

So, Page 9 of the FOIA is directly related to the number of cases that has increased over the years in the county and the county board failed to allow a larger budget expense to cover the deaths. Plus the price for toxicology tests did go up also, $400. Again Mr. Milliron puts together a novel that fits his narrative. That's where the $14,000 budget overage went too.

Jon Zahm

11:57 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

A whole lot of spaghetti has been thrown against the wall here including smears and allegations about the Coroner's personal life. We have learned a few things from this thread. 1) Dabney, despite collecting a public pension from a previous job and a salary from a public job, simultaneously, could not keep his family home from being seized in foreclosure in 2010. Who wants to give this guy power over a public checkbook when he handled his own affairs so poorly? 2) Anne Vickrey, Todd's close ally, was the Finance Chair approving all of these so-called questionable expenditures. 3) Todd is filing FOIAs all over the region digging for dirt without real specificity. The two things he "found" that I will investigate is the alleged double billing by a deputy coroner. Second is the status of that "sling box" tv device. I will see if there was an honest mistake made there or something else. Last point for now... Prochaska was a temp fill in so he worked the bare minimum amount of hours to do the job. That is a credit to him and Toftoy for not stretching that assignment out. When Purcell came back to work she had a bigger plate of duties and responsibilities to fulfill.

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Stephen Youhanaie

7:04 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Just a remnder that Jon Zahm is being paid to represent Ken Toftoy. Not to say he would not be truthful, but understand where he is coming from. This is the unvarnished truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp
Was Ken Toftoy prepared to present his budget?
Was he found out to have padded his budget, by Jessie Hafenrichter?
Did he actually ask a subordnate if he could change his budget line items?
Was he so flustered, that he waked out saying whatever the board wants to do?
You make the call!

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Jake Delrose

10:03 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Well I'm not getting paid for this as supposedly Mr. Zahm is. Yet no one has yet given a good answer to my questions. Just distractions about other people and personal remarks not associated with the race, a candidate that says he's fiscally responsible yet hides the fact that he had his house foreclosed on all while jabbing the incumbent about his office spending and his experience that is non-existent. Can any of you supporting Dabney or friends of Milliron answer these questions in truth?
I doubt it since it would ruin the race for your candidate and your efforts would be lost. Just remember, as you guys tried to hide this foreclosure issue more truth will come out in the months to come. There is your warning.

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Jake Delrose

12:02 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mr. Youhanaie,
I guess you just don't understand budgets. The board has a larger authority over the budget than the elected official of that office. If he requests a larger budget in a certain area and they are not going to give it to you, Why fight with the people in charge of the budget. Look at some of the board members.. They don't even understand the labor laws involved and why they had to switch the other deputies to a per hour basis... Then the lady said she doesn't care. She didn't care if the actions of the board violated Labor Laws!

Remember some of those individuals don't care for this man and he is not going to deal with them anymore. Some are leaving this November and good riddance!

The best part about it, we won't hear from Milliron until the next time he looks to support a losing candidate, so he can take pop shots at individuals while hiding behind someone running. Bet me if I'm wrong.

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Stephen Youhanaie

8:30 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Jake,
I do understand the budgeting process. Had you been to that meeting you would have seen prepared public officials lay out their requests, very professionally. They knew what they were talking about. When questioned about any line items, they had clear, thoughtful responses. It's called caring about your work, though preparation. No professional business person, or governmental official could possibly look at our Coroner's performance and say that he conducted himself, with a high level of professionalism. I am a Republican. Our coroner is the Chairman of the Republican Party of Kendall County. I expect the utmost in professionalism from him, more than anybody else. Why? Because I'm a citizen that goes out, and asks people to vote Republican. I don't need an Independent voter pointing to this man and say, "You want me to vote for that?" Don't get me wrong, Kenny's a nice, freindly person. He's been in office a wee bit too long. He's lost perspective. How can I confirm this? His own words, He said this is his last term. Why should I think that you care to do the job, after a performance like that?

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Jake Delrose

8:40 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Wow Mr. Youhanaie, I guess the Reagan model of not to speak badly of other Republicans has gone out the window for you.... Then does that mean you are supporting Dabney the non-Republican in the race? Or do you also have a grudge with Mr. Toftoy? It seems to show.

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Stephen Youhanaie

9:29 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Jake,
The video speaks for itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp I have absolutely no grudge against Kenny, personally. However, he was given advice, by a fellow county wide elected Republican, and he chose to ignore it. This advice concerned the exact issues that Mr. Milliron has been bringing up. If Mr. Toftoy doesn't care how to run his office, he is no Republican that I can ask the voters to support. Just because the primary is over does not mean that I, as a volunteer Republican have to become mute. If any incumbent Republican fails to conduct their office with a high level of professionalism, I will work to defeat them, and then find another candidate to support in future primaries. By the way, Reagan's 11th commandment has to do with primary campaigns by opposing candidates. I am not in that arena.

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Jake Delrose

10:01 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

So Mr. Youhanaie is voting for Dabney. Since other "supposed" countywide republicans gave him advice. What Republicans(names) and what advice?? Was is good advice for the office, Coroner's budget advice or personal advice? Give some details not vague answers to why these so called "countywide republicans" are upset with him.

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Stephen Youhanaie

10:11 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

HI Jake,

The advice came from Sheriff Richard Randall. It had to do with the proper execution for the reimbursement of travel expenses. I never stated that Sheriff Randall was upset. Kenny was upset that one of the county board members would not allow Kenny's travel expenses to be paid. The Sheriff informed him that even if he spent less than what he was due (if he followed proper procedure), he has to follow the rules. This conversation was held at a GOP precinct committeeman meeting at the White Tail Country Club, that I attended.

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Jake Delrose

10:32 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

So one board member denied Mr. Toftoy traveling expenses for county business or for whatever reason they gave. Which board member? and what procedure did Mr. Toftoy not do to recover expenses? Since this procedure was not supposedly followed, does that negate that it was a county business issue? Gotta remember, procedures often change in large corporate or government settings and people forget to communicate, with others, over the change. Then that's where people get messed over.

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Jake Delrose

10:44 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

In a prior post I made, Why fight with people that are going to do what they want to do anyways. They control the budgets of the departments.
Mr. Youhanaie stated
Was he so flustered, that he waked out saying whatever the board wants to do?
You make the call!

Yes, who wouldn't be if you had to deal with people that lack enough sense to understand simple labor laws, lack in understanding that the county is growing in population and didn't appropriate enough for department to cover the costs of deaths and other related charges to the county for those deaths and lastly have board members that might have ulterior motives to submarine to guy because that's the only way to get to him.

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Stephen Youhanaie

10:53 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Hi Jake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp
Everytime you come up with nonsense, I'll just keep reminding the readers to look at this video. We, as Republicans, ask all kinds of people to follow the rules. Take immigrants. Republicans are for legal immigration. Ask the keynote speaker from last years GOP picnic, Joe Arpaio. FOLLOW THE RULES. Mr. Toftoy didn't state who denied his claim, or what he did not do to follow procedures. Bottom line, FOLLOW THE RULES. If you don't, be prepared to suffer the results of not following them. If you are an an elected official, FOLLOW THE RULES, especially if you are a Republican. To allow yourself a better chance to get re-elected, conduct your business, professionally. Being a professinal entails many things to include FOLLOW THE RULES. If you don't, you run a higher risk of defeat. FOLLOW THE RULES. No one is above them, or the law, for that matter.

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Jake Delrose

1:29 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mr. Youhanaie,
I did watch the video. The issue falls under the autopsy and toxicology issues. Now, I am not a scholar on death but do you think you can predict deaths in the county?? You have board members that understand numbers and I am using the term "understand" loosely with certain members in attendance to this meeting. More people live in the county = more deaths. Simple formulation needs common sense response to increase the amounts needed to provide a service to the county. Not obstructionist people who think that his budget proposal was not up to their personal standards. If you can do better, run for the position yourself.

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Stephen Youhanaie

2:03 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Hi Jake,
As Reagan would say, "There you go again." Talking non-sense, so here's the link for all people to see for themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp
Had you been there, and had the information, you wouldn't be talking your non-sense, again. Mr. Toftoy has incorrectly, routinely, and consistenlty under budgeted this account by at least 50%. At the end of the year, he moves money from other line items to fill that gap. The issue that the board has is why doesn't he raise the budget for that line item, to a more correct anticipatory amount. He says he has enough excess budget line items to cover it. That means, as Jessie Hafenrichter noted, he is asking for too much money on the other budget line items. Why did he not properly budget? He doesn't; his underling does, as you may have heard him ask permission to change a line item, but was shut down by his underling. After seeing his performance, and knowing that he said this is his last term, why vote for him? What could possibly motivate him to improve? Nothing that I can think of. Is he someone who doesn't really know all facets about his job well (after 20 years), or someone who is there to collect a check? Either way, that's not the Republican way of thinking.

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Jake Delrose

9:10 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Well Mr. Youhanaie, I guess you have made up your mind in who you will vote for. See you in November as you waste your vote just as you probably did back in 2010 for a different Sheriff.

Stephen Youhanaie

9:52 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Ken Toftoy is now supporting Mike Dabney.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/yorkvillepatch
See where he makes a donation to Mike Dabney's campaign

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Jake Delrose

10:06 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Now there's compassion for a dead campaign. "Here my man. Here's some money. My condolences." RIP

Jillian Duchnowski

3:24 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

OK, folks, I just suspended one account for writing an obscene post. Let's keep the conversation constructive and clean.

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Jillian Duchnowski

3:40 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

At Todd Milliron's request, I've uploaded documents associated with his July 10 FOIA to this blog post.

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Jake Delrose

12:20 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Since we are able to make requests, I request Mr. Milliron post how much money he has contributed to the Dabney campaign for materials, advertisement, fuel, time and how much he has cost the county in FOIA's. Thanks.

Bob Allen

7:28 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Well, "Jake," it seems very important for you to demand answers. However, your responses lack authenticity.
"Well I'm not getting paid for this as supposedly Mr. Zahm is."
"Supposedly?" your response to this obvious conflict of interested is to say "Supposedly?"
And you are saying Dabney is not qualified because he has not been coronor? How can we elect a new official if they have to have experience in the office that they are running for? Under this vein of thought, Ryan and Blagojovich would still be running this state because they could not be replaced.
If Milliron supports Dabney, what business is it of yours how much he works for him? There are campaign laws regarding financial assistance, but who are you to ask how much time he is working? You seem to be up at 12:20 am working on campaigning.
Todd has provided specific details using FOIAs for public official spending of taxpayer dollars. If you want learn what he is spending, elect him to public office!

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Jake Delrose

8:51 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Well Mr. Allen good point...but Mr. Dabney is claiming he is experienced. I think it is better to review case files and find out what type of experience he is talking or touting about. I am not a Coroner's expert but I imagine that not one case is similar to the next. And 12 cases sounds like a short stack of experience.

And what business of it is mine. Easily answered. When the person that writes this article portrays himself as a champion for the people and hides the fact that he is actively campaigning for a candidate, does that person have something to hid? So far Mr, Milliron has had plenty to hid since he has not answered the question and you obviously have not read most of the posts, challenging Mr. Milliron that he has failed to provide full truths and mostly made up narratives to his FOIA's to support his candidate.

See this is how it should be titled, CHA-CHA-KA-CHING, Taxpayer Approved by Todd Milliron Campaign Director to Elect Michael Dabney for Coroner.

This small truth is never found, WHY!? Because it would be declared a bias article to the reader and the reader would understand that Mr. Milliron has a vested interest to the race. That's why it's my business.

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Stephen Youhanaie

9:46 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

So Jake, Your interest in this race is to go after Milliron, because he has a vested interest in this race? That implies that Mr. Milliron wants something from Dabney, or is upset with Mr. Toftoy for not giving Mr. Milliron something. Here's an idea, if you are open to it. Mr. Milliron goes to every County Board meeting. Why don't you find him, and take a few minutes to chat with him about what he is doing. Then, form your opinion.

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Todd Milliron

12:32 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Jake,
The last 15 years of Mike Dabney's work experience at the Aurora Police Dept. are well documented with numerous duty recognitions & awards. This is the 1990-2005 span of time in Aurora that I call the "Dodge City Days", when Aurora, year after year was experiencing & had a very high number homicides/murders with additional countless shooting investigations that did not involve loss of life, just only loss of limb, disfigurement or a disability suffered by the shooting victim. Mr. Dabney, as part of the Aurora Police Dept. Investigations Unit during this period processed over 100 death scenes & personally attended even a higher number of autopsies. That accumulated CSI experience & his dedication to doing a thorough & complete investigation while at the Aurora Police Dept. is one of the primary reasons he was asked to work at the Kendall County Coroner's Office. Mr. Dabney’s time spent at the Kendall County Coroner’s office only added to his wealth of CSI work experience.

I too wanted to know how many cases Mr. Toftoy & each deputy coroner did on an annual basis. As you can see from my 7-10-2012 FOIA I specifically asked FOIA Officer Purcell for that information, she verbally told me those records were not available, when routinely other county coroner’s do track that “per call” activity for all personnel. My gut tells me those records are not kept for a reason, it being Mr. Toftoy's lack of work ethic and his being a Part-Time ($57,000 a year) Coroner.

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Tim

1:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Todd,
Post the evidence that led you to make the statement;
"routinely other county coroner’s do track that “per call” activity for all personnel."

Where is the documentation to support that claim? Where are your FOIA requests for the other 100 counties in Illinois that led you to think it is 'routine'? Or is this another one of your 'gut feelings'?

Again, where are all your FOIA requests for Mr. Dabneys service in Aurora? Are we just supposed to take your word for it? And if so, why is your word suddenly good enough, when you are making proclamations from a pedestal of 'transparency'.

This is why the majority of people think you are a hypocrite. You do not apply the same standards to yourself, that you hold others to. Since it is obvious that you have no intention of ever doing so, you and those you support will continue to securely hold last place in any election related to you.

For someone who claims to care about the taxpayers and voters, you certainly don't seem to care when they continuously hand you defeat after defeat in elections. By now, most people are tired of your 'I-know-better-than-you' attitude, and vote accordingly.

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Jake Delrose

1:38 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mr. Milliron,
Please disclose the amount of annual monies received by Mr. Dabney from all sources that comprise his yearly income from 2007-to present. From the retirement funds he receives to the current amount he gets from the Oswego Fire Department. Then explain how he could not keep his house out of foreclosure and how he intends not to have fiscal issues come up IF he wins an election? Cannot boast yourself as a champion of fiscal responsibility if you cannot take care of home first!

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Todd Milliron

1:44 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Tim,
Just FOIA my FOIA's and you can find out what I already know. If you want to participate, then I suggest you do some work of your own and then you too can post it using your real or full name just as I do.

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Tim

3:30 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Todd, the onus is on the one making the claims, not the one questioning them. You made the claim, you provide the evidence to support it. Until then, there is no reason for anyone to believe it.

This is a decades old concept, better known as 'russels teapot'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
"philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others"

Seriously, do you honestly not understand why you keep losing elections with such a basic flaw in reasoning as this?

Jake Delrose

9:13 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

And on a side note, I am not assisting any campaign as of now. But since the "supposed" Republicans support the challenger of the race, I doubt that the people of the forum can really say they are Republican. You berate, belittle and badger the person that is in charge of the Republican party in the county (this is the claim from the prior post and I went to the website to confirm this). Sounds like a bunch of jealous people trying to get back at him for losing elections or have personal grudges from my observation on this forum. Anyone have a better insight to this, outside of this forum, to provide examples to this claim?

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Jon Zahm

3:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I have found the answers to the questions raised.

First, with regards to Mr. Klimek. He took 40 hours of training and did not bill the taxpayers for the classroom hours that he spent learning for his job as Deputy Coroner. Nor did he charge for the 10 hours in the car to ride to St. Louis and back. 50 hours at $25 an hour is $1,250. The mileage of $260.00 was accurately billed and paid. The $211 for gas receipts will be reclassified as a stipend. So, instead of Mr. Klimek being some type of double dipping crook as Milliron implies, it turns out he has saved the taxpayers a net of $1,039 under what he could have charged for the mandatory training. The electronic device Milliron references was purchased for $49 to help the Coroner's Office embed You Tube videos into Power Point presentations to the public. It did not work the way it was intended and the device is now sitting at the Coroner's office to be repurposed in the future. It does not allow for the watching of television like a "slingbox" or "hopper" for example.

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Stephen Youhanaie

4:23 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Jon, where do you get the $25/hour pay from? That's just about what the Coroner gets paid, if he worked 40/hours weekly. As was pointed out in the recent Finance Committee meeting, the deputies were never paid $25/hour for anything. So try again, it's on the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

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Todd Milliron

8:54 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mr. Zahm,
Please confirm for the record, that the statement of explanation which you have provided on 9-5-2012 regarding Mr. Klimek's $211.00 in Gas Credit Card charges has now been officially reclassified by the Kendall County Coroner’s Office to an award of compensation for time spent by Mr. Klimek on this March 2011 St. Louis training trip. Please confirm in writing that a $211.00 stipend has been or will be actually awarded to Mr. Klimek as trip compensation. Please confirm in writing for the readers of this Blog that the decision to do an official override and official reclassification for the $211.00 in credit card gas expenses was performed by Kendall County Coroner Ken Toftoy and it is his official explanation for the record for what I discovered.

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Jake Delrose

9:24 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Well Mr. Youhanaie, If you watched your own video that you keep posting as a link you would understand. So now it seems that you, yourself have never watch something you claimed to have seen and have given your best personal opinion. Get all the distractions away from yourself and listen to how much the deputies are paid for their time. It is specifically said that the deputies get paid $25 per hour for going out to calls or to represent the county in some fashion... You just have to get by your hate for one man for a moment and listen to what is said. Then you might understand how the savings came about for the county.

Just another Todd Milliron narrative debunked. Double dip, I don't think so! The man saved the county over a thousand dollars.

So which story will you hear from Milliron:
1. It was inappropriate for him to double dip like this.
Answer: We saved the county money by not paying him for his time but we allowed him to get mileage and gas.

or narrative 2.
Toftoy blows money, that belongs to the taxpayers of Kendall County, away and spending large sums of money without saving!
Answer: We saved money to be exact $1039 by not paying him for his time. If we didn't, we would have taken advantage of a person.

Which one is it Todd?

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Jake Delrose

9:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Why don't you confirm Mr. Milliron, "how much money he has contributed to the Dabney campaign for materials, advertisement, fuel, time and how much he has cost the county in FOIA's. Thanks."

Why don't you confirm, Can you FOIA Mr. and Mrs. Dabney's 1040 forms for the past 5 years to see what they made combined and give that to the public? Then explain why they mismanaged their own finances and how Mr. Dabney would be able to do that for a government budget?

Why don't you confirm these Mr. Milliron before you get to ask anyone else to confirm anything. You take half truths and make up stories that should be sold as best sellers on the NYT best sellers list.

You confirm these then you might be in a position to demand. See you in November and thanks for wasting your vote on another candidate you supported because they are to blind to see that you are ruining their reputation in the county.

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Todd Milliron

10:07 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Jake,
Mr. Zahm has claimed to find the answers to the questions I raised originally in this blog and that was the purpose of this blog was to get some answers. That was my sole intent as a tax-paying citizen to get answers, I deserve a confirmation for, and to the claims, that Mr. Zahm has made today on and in behalf of his candidate, incumbent Kendall County Coroner Ken Toftoy.

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Stephen Youhanaie

8:16 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Jake, I did have fun, yesterday. Thanks for the banter. The $25/hour was not in place during the trip in question. But let's say it was. Now you are telling me that Mr. Klimek is allowed to be paid more money than Jacque Purcell [the supposedly acting chief deputy coroner (Jim Detzler listed as chief)], she's paid around $17.50/hour, if she worked 40/weekly. Wasn't there another deputy coroner who attended the St. Louis trip? Jake, please tell me her name, and why she didn't get paid the $25/hour that Mr. Klimek is due, but didn't claim?

Stephen Youhanaie

4:49 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

If the folks at Ace Hardware said the device would perform a specific task, and it didn't work...RETURN IT. Either they didn't know what they were talking about, they lied, or it is defective. Either way ...RETURN IT, and get the money back on behalf of the taxpayers. The Coroner's office has known for 6 months that this device didn't work. Since deputy coroner Jacque Purcell, who is the wife of the owner/manager of the Ace Hardware store that it was purchased from (John Purcell, County Board Chairman), you'd think that Mr. Purcell would give the taxpayers a refund, or the Coroner will stop using the charge account that he, and Mrs. Purcell sign for purchases with. By not returning it, Todd's point has been proven. That it's original purpose was different than you state. It's primary function is to watch tv on the pc's in the office. You argument fails again.

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Stephen Youhanaie

5:28 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Now, if Mr. Toftoy was told by another source that this device was to work, as you state Jon, Mr. Toftoy should pay the money back himself, because he must not have known what he was doing. Why should the taxpayers pay for incompetence, of the Coroner's own doing? So either Mr. Toftoy pays, or John Purcell's Ace Hardware pays. Who should pay Jon? It's not the taxpayers fault, is it?

Jon Zahm

10:53 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Todd- My statement was that the deputy should not have submitted mileage and gas receipts for the same trip. I also pointed out that this same deputy could have submitted much more in reimbursements than he did. So the taxpayers were not shorted by his reporting error, they actually benefited from the way he chose to bill for that trip. Correcting the classification of the $211 is the best solution.
Steve- Mrs. Purcell says there is another way to repurpose the $49 item in the future. And it is not for watching TV. You are hung up on a very tiny item here.

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Stephen Youhanaie

8:01 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Jon, why not return the item, or have Mr. Toftoy pay for it? You say it desn't work. The point is that it starts with small items, and works to higher priced items. Let's say that Mr. Toftoy is assured by a car dealer that a Pruis is large enough to carry a stretcher. Mr. Toftoy doesn't take measurements, and purchases the car. He takes it to the office, and puts a stretcher in it to find that the stretcher doesn't fit. Does this qualify as an item destined for your repurposing excuse? The item in question is primarily used for watching HDTV from your PC. That or the product makers are advertising, falsely. It hasn't been returned, so we know that it is/was being used as the product was intended to be used. Also, how is it that Jacque Purcell can make purchases at Ace Hardware (owned/managed by her husband John Purcell, our County Board Chirman), using a county charge account, and then signs to authorize payment on the document submitted to the county treasurer? Who's minding the store? What's to stop Jacque Purcell from buying items at Ace Hardware, where she profits from the sale? You can't answer this one, because she already has done this.

Todd Milliron

11:24 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mr. Zahm,
You have dodged my question, are you speaking exclusive on behalf of Kendall County Coroner Ken Toftoy and is this Mr. Toftoy’s official explanation to my questions that I raised in this blog. It is a very simple Yes or No question. Please answer this yes or no question.

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Jake Delrose

12:00 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Milliron you have dodged all questions I have presented to you also. Get over yourself

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Jake Delrose

12:02 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

You have your explanation and now you don't like it to bad. See you in November.

Tim

12:22 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Another campaign run into the ground by Todd, and in record time.

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Tina Conley

5:58 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

The Oswegoland Optimist Club is holding its 3rd Annual Pumpkin Race on Oct 20. Would love to see you battle it out with a pumpkin!! Money raised goes to support youth programs in Oswego. Details are on our website: http://www.oswegooptimists.com/article.asp?a=183

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Todd Milliron

9:04 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Again, Coroner Ken Toftoy chooses to ignore the Kendall County Employee Handbook and has now retroactively decided, well after the fact, that he can now officially pay an employee who was caught red handed and is culpable of official misconduct by a sworn officer of law, just by Mr. Toftoy, who is another sworn officer of the law unilaterally proclaiming a stipend for the gas credit card charges in question.

http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/employ_handbook_2011.docx (See Section Page 5.3, page 30, applicable paragraph is cited below verbatim, big file wait to load)

If the educational or training course work is to meet the specific and current job description and is required by the supervisor/department head and their committee chairman, then tuition and books will be reimbursed at one hundred percent (100%) from the employee’s department budget.

Mr. Zahm, please tell your employer Ken Toftoy we taxpayers can’t pay Mr. Klimek for training time and do what is the right according to the Kendall County Employee Handbook which every other county dept and elected official adheres to and follows. Otherwise, we will do this the hard way, which has significant consequences for those involved and for those who continue to aid and abet this ruse. I want our tax money back for this misdeed.

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Jake Delrose

8:30 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

On subsection Q - 74 under paragraph 8 you will see that bla bla bla bla......

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Tim

11:28 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

The funniest thing about this, is how Todd takes his misunderstanding of what he reads, and then tries to tie it into the stories he constructs. Either you are doing this to be funny, or you honestly don't know how silly you sound.

Your game is over Todd. Anyone running for office in the future would be wise to keep you as far from their campaign as possible.

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Oswego Resident

3:11 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Mr. Milliron,
Did you honestly interpret section 5.3 to pertain to the attendance at a seminar, required by the State?
This section clearly refers to an employee taking courses to advance ones knowledge in a field of study. Evidence of this would be in the paragraph above the one you posted:
The course work must be directly related to the employee’s job function (or proposed functions); be accomplished outside of working hours; be from an accredited institution of learning; and the employee must receive a passing grade of “C” or higher and not exceed one class per semester (or quarter).

See the wee bit about the "outside of working hours..."
Now, if Mr. Klimek was getting paid to take night school classes at Waubonsee CC, then I could see you might have a point, but really, I think you're clutching at straws here.

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Todd Milliron

11:09 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Oswego Resident your “outside of working hours” point is well taken, there were two Part-time KC-Coroner employees on this March 2011 St. Louis Training trip. Ms. Mitchell did not submit a mileage voucher as Mr. Klimek did, so where is her stipend? That is an inconvenient and documented truth. (http://yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/kckoronerklimek.pdf ) Mr. Klimek charges are on page 4 of 25 and Ms. Mitchell charges are on Page 24 of 25. You have two employees with the same job description on the same trip that are being treated in an unequal manner. Note there are only two mileage entries for this 2010-2011 fiscal year, see page 2 of 25.
Both part-time employees discussed have no set or prescribed work schedule. Therefore, what is “outside of working hours” if there is no set work schedules? I felt that passage would not be applicable to these two part time employees and their work as needed schedule. During this March 2011 period, in question deputy coroners were paid $2.00 per hour to be “On Call” and $125.00 per Death Call taken.

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Todd Milliron

11:20 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

(cont.) It is very disingenuous for Mr. Zahm/Jake Del Rose to claim $25.00 an hour now when that new 2012 Deputy Coroner compensation policy had not even been thought of yet. Kendall ASA, Leslie Johnson who acts as the county’s HR person had not been assigned those new HR duties ( that took place 12-1-2011 when she got her $17,000 raise) and the 2010-2011 audit had not been performed which took Mr. Toftoy to task with several findings directed specifically at his management practices in Jan. 2012 . Now we are told and are led to believe that this new $25.00 an hour “on-call” compensation policy was in effect in March of 2011. Kendall States Attorney Human Resource ASA Leslie Johnson said this was a needed to change, but that need for change did not come about until after Tonya Mack’s Jan. 2012 Audit presentation.

You cannot retroactively make a county credit card charge made for gas a stipend. A stipend is a form of income; it is not a double-dip expense you want to go away.

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Tim

11:44 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

This is exactly why people dismiss you Todd.

"there were two Part-time KC-Coroner employees on this March 2011 St. Louis Training trip. Ms. Mitchell did not submit a mileage voucher as Mr. Klimek did, so where is her stipend?"

Did you bother to find out if they car-pooled? Not everything is a giant conspiracy to take your money, Todd. The fact that it is your default position on EVERYTHING says more about you, than it does about the people you are accusing of felonies.

Take a step back and look how twisted your logic is becoming. You are upset that there was only one stipend, and that somehow, the fact that there weren't two of them(one for each employee) means the only person who claimed it MUST be stealing.

Do you understand what you are doing? And I mean this in the most serious way possible.

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Stephen Youhanaie

12:02 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Regardless of Todd's motivation, the bottom line is that Klimek took money that was not due him. Creating a stipend over a year later, with funds from a different fiscal year does not change the original action. Can you imagine someone going to a bank, demanding money that is not theirs, and then returning it a year later with all sins forgiven? That dog won't hunt. Additionally, no one has addressed the fact that Jacque Purcell makes purchases from her husband's business (Ace Hardware), and uses a county credit line to do it with. Then she's the one who signs off for the county treasurer to pay the bill. It doesn't make it any better that John Purcell, the County Board Chairman is her husband. Is there anyone out there that thinks this practice should continue? If so, why?

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Tim

12:23 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Stephen, it has been shown beyond a shadow of a doubt, that nobody took money not due to them. In fact, it could even be said that Ms. Mitchell DID NOT take money due to her.

It is not 'regardless of Todd position' once his entire position has been shown to be a jumbled mess of paranoid constructions, combined with a misunderstanding of what is actually allowed, that leads him to think his delusions are equal to truth. Todd then takes that confused position and makes felony accusations against individuals in the public sector using public records that only very slightly even relate to what his accusing people of.

Todd doesn't care about anyone but himself, and his political allies. He certainly doesn't care about you. The more he talks, the more transparent he is, and the more of a sad joke he is becoming.

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Todd Milliron

1:07 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Tim,
Mr. Klimek’s last gas credit card charge fill up was for $56.00 on 3-18-11 at the Shell in Mazon, IL. He also filled up at Yorkville Shell on 3-13-11 for 80.00 and again filled up on 3-13-11 in Edwardsville for 75.00, which is just outside of St. Louis, grand total $211.00. Ms. Mitchell’s last gas credit card charge was also on 3-18-11 was at the BP Fast and Fresh in Morris, IL. and was for $42.80, prior to that gas charge Ms. Mitchell filled up on 3-18-11 for $81.88 at the BP in Livingston, IL, grand total for Ms. Mitchell of $124.68.
You have brought up and have tried to float this turd Car Pool scheme, the purpose of car-pooling is to save money, not charge county taxpayers a combined $336.68. The highest gas price for that week was $3.70 a gallon in Yorkville that means the car they took averaged 5.7 MPG at S3.70 a gallon. Please tell me how two county employees that are car-pooling use $42.80 of gas between Mazon and Morris a distance of about 10 to 11 miles. Even if they car-pooled in military hummer, it does not add up and that turd will not float. Tim, I am glad that you agree with me this could be a felony.

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Tim

1:35 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Todd, you are a grown man. It is time you understand that the date a charge posts on a card is not automatically the date the charge took place. How can someone who trumpets his own superior 'fiscal management' not know such a basic fact? Is it because you continue to be stuck in your pattern of thinking that any thought you have is automatically true?

You are grasping at straws in a pitiful attempt to accuse people of 'milking the taxpayers'. Because nothing portrays living the high more life than driving for hours on end to go sit at a conference while eating cheap food.

You complain when one person buys steak dinners on your dime at a mandated conference that person had no input whatsoever into the menu choices, and in the next breath complain that someone is spending money on cheap gas-station food during a conference.

In no way do I think there is a felony here, I would commit myself to a psychiatric ward if I ever got that paranoid and delusional. The amounts you are trying to portray as 'felonies' are less than the man-hours that were required and paid for to dig up the information you are claiming is a 'waste of money'. It's time to look in the mirror Todd, for YOU are the biggest waste of tax dollars in every single one of your supposed 'felonies'. Every time you play this political nonsense, someone is taken off their regular duties. Maybe you could bother the HWY dept next to keep them off of fixing the crumbling roads and bridges in the county

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Todd Milliron

2:25 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Tim,
Please note the referenced Trans (transaction date) and the Post (when charges were submitted and cleared) dates are both 3-18-2011, for both Morris and Mazon gas credit card charges. There is no ambiguity here. The St. Louis University Medicolegal Death Investigation Course concluded at 11:30AM on 3-18-2011, a Friday. Both the Morris and Mazon gas credit card charges referenced were transacted and posted on 3-18-2011, a documented basic fact you are unwilling to accept, there was no car pool.
Regarding your lack of “Menu Choice Floater,” in this case a choice of a filet mignon steak dinner Mr. Toftoy has publicly discussed on the record and in the KC Record. Any mandated conference I have ever attended that did not have a menu choice had those meals included at the training site & those meals were automatically included & were part of the fee paid to attend that conference. If one chooses to go off site to dine, that is an entitlement choice; one that is not needed or a government necessity. I as a taxpayer already paid for the meal provided at the conference site and should not have to pay for a second meal when a conference meal is being served.
Please show me where I referenced “someone is spending money on cheap gas-station food during a conference.” I have only discussed credit card gas charges, a questionable HD-PCTV chip that is being repurposed (whatever that means) and two pet laser toys, that I still do not know the necessitated government use.

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Stephen Youhanaie

3:08 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012

Tim,
If Klimek didn't steal the money, then Ken Tof toy doesn't have to create the stipend

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Jake Delrose

12:52 am on Monday, September 10, 2012

Todd,
What do you propose for people to eat when representing the county?? Mickey D's, or splurge and go to Wendy's? Or you could be smart and look up the averages for food in St. Louis or any other major city to see what it would cost for a day of eating in those major cities. I bet it would have cost wayyyy more then what was submitted by those who went down to St. Louis. But you'll hide that fact won't you. I guess I get those figures for you and debunk another distraction.
Game Over Man!

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Todd Milliron

10:16 am on Monday, September 10, 2012

@Jake/JZ
Double dip again, See 10:50PM BREWHOUSE (3-16-11) receipt (page 14 of 25) that is curiously not an itemized receipt, as required by County Accounting Policy in the amount of $34.46. (page 14 of 25, top right) http://yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/kckoronerklimek.pdf Then see (page 19 of 25) where a training course dinner was provided to Mr. Klimek and served at 7:30PM on 3-16-2011 at the St. Francis Xavier Church. Why as a taxpayer must I pay twice, again?

Was this even a meal, it appears to me the only training being done here at 10:50PM was several late night, one-armed 12-ounce Curls for several rounds at the Hyatt BREWHOUSE? Where is the itemized receipt for this particular credit card transaction? Was this purposely withheld by Mr. Klimek or was the concealment done at the Kendall Coroner’s Office by our County Coroner or his Administrative Deputy to conceal the purchase of alcohol by a county employee on the county credit card, which would be grounds for termination for those involved?

Another curious observation, why is it that both Jake Delrose and Mr. Zahm choose to comment late at night and at similar times when the rest of us hard working taxpayers are in bed getting ready for another workweek so we can afford to pay our property taxes.

JZ, dig a little deeper as the bogus hole you are digging for Mr. Toftoy just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

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Jake Delrose

12:31 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Milliron,

Your looking up out of the hole not down in it....From a different perspective outside the hole looking at the one shoveling it and it's not dirt.

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Jake Delrose

12:36 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Milliron,

Is your accusation, of Mr. Klimek, stating that since the bill was not itemized and it was late at night(10:30pm is not late for me) and supposedly he was feed at an event for the training, He was drinking and charged it to the county? Are you sure he made the dinner event at the training seminar? And are you accusing him of unprofessional conduct?

Now think about what you are about to say or not say, it could cost you here.

Back to you Todd.

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Jake Delrose

12:45 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Lookie here... http://www.hyatt.com/hyatt/images/hotels/stlrs/Food_3.19.12.pdf

Seems Mr Story teller has made up another story. The Brewhouse at the hyatt. Looks like they have wonderful food there. Not to expensive and price nicely in a major city hotel! Yes they do have drinks but from what it looks like that is a very low bill (Mr. Klimek submitted) that would have drinks on it to plus gratuity..... No it does not pass the smell test here Todd. Try again! Game Over Man!

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Jake Delrose

12:50 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

And pertaining to my hours posting, Todd. If your are insinuating that I do not work or taking advantage of the hard working taxpayers, How is it that you have all of this time to gather FOIAs costing the county thousands of taxpayer dollars and can attend meetings that I have no time for?

Really go find a real job where you don't have the time to try and untangle your lies in this fictional story you keep adding chapters too.

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Jake Delrose

1:00 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Didn't Mr. Klimek stay at the Hyatt for his training time. Only makes sense to eat near the place your at.

Jake Delrose

8:28 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

This story is officially over. Get the body bag out and tuck it away. Dabney's candidacy is DOA, Thanks Todd. :)

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Todd Milliron

9:49 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Jake,
Please explain why you don't exist in the State of Illinois voter data base. Could it be you are not using your real name or is it you are not registered to vote. Maybe your IP address is the same as Jon Zahm's, how can that be?

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Jake Delrose

10:16 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Please. I wish I could meet the guy(Jon). I would shake his hand for taking the time to debunk your stories. Seems like he can use his time more constructively than you. And I am sure you have complete access to the SOI Data base and access to IP addresses, right... Give it up. See you in November.

Oh Todd, please give me the place you guys will be celebrating Mr. Dabney's loss. I would like to get him a sympathy card.

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Tim

6:40 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Jake,
Next time, use the 'full-size image' link. It's much shorter.
http://thepoliticalzealot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/aliens_hudson_game_over.jpg

Along the same thought(and amusingly, from the same movie);
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd220/wallstuff4/nuke_it_from_orbit.jpg

Bob Allen

7:15 am on Friday, September 7, 2012

This forum provides an opportunity to share truths. It is also unshielded from falsehoods and personal attacks.
One of these characters stated, "This is why the majority of people think you are a hypocrite"
Some people might consider this a personal attack.
Instead, we should recognize that when someone lacks an honest answer, they resort to personal attacks. Wave that white flag high!

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Jake Delrose

1:47 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

I guess Todd should stop writing stories then just from your statement Mr. Allen.

Is it a personal attack on a person running for a government office, that requires someone to maintain a budget, yet his campaign manager denying the fact his candidate in question has been foreclosed on in the county, all while said campaign candidate and manager write articles claiming fiscal responsibility is lost from the guy running the office? Seems a little hypocritical to point a finger while fiscal responsibility has been a major issue on the Dabney campaign's side, right?

The honesty seems to be lacking on a particular side that seems to be hiding the most, from the challenger. See you in November, Game Over Man!

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Todd Milliron

11:54 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Mr. Zahm/Jake,
Some people do have to work, run a business and cannot stay up to all hours of the AM commenting. I also volunteer for activities that are going on in our schools, which I did yesterday.

I am not the campaign manager for Mike Dabney, be advised I have my own agenda. There is considerable waste and questionable spending in the Kendall County Coroner's office. It needs to be addressed. A change in attitude can only come about at the ballot box. Issues of concern can only be identified and discussed when others are willing to consider and reflect on past spending decisions, then vote accordingly. This is why I am doing it now and do what I do.

I do know we have a new Chief Deputy at the Sheriff's Dept for a reason and several folks helped to identify those reasons, I am not the only one who wants to take to task those in-elected office that feel they are entitled at the expense of the property taxpayer.

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Jake Delrose

9:56 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Todd's taking credit for a guy who needed to leave from a harassment suit. This is rich!
"I do know we have a new Chief Deputy at the Sheriff's Dept for a reason and several folks helped to identify those reasons, I am not the only one who wants to take to task those in-elected office that feel they are entitled at the expense of the property taxpayer."

Don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back, Campaign Manager Milliron.

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Jake Delrose

10:00 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Todd,

And who are you talking to Mr. Zahm or me? We are not the same person and if you need clarification, you can name the place and you'll see. Then your paranoid delusions will really kick into high gear!

Jake Delrose

9:22 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Last time we heard from Todd was on Thursday. Either he is:
A: Out trying to dig up more dirt
B: Trying to figure out his next angle
C: Stalking Mr. Zahm for written confirmations
D: Looking for a new candidate for a board, circuit clerk, recorder, dog catcher, janitor to FOIA so he can do his "good deeds" for the common folk.
E: All of the above

Lets have a poll, answer as a reply
Thanks

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Got duped

9:50 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

How old are you people?? I've seen HS kids have better discussions. Name calling, big egos and bad jokes is all people see here!! All us normal citizens are concerned about is why kendall county is one the highest taxed counties in the COUNTRY!! What the hell is in Kendall that justifies a 10% property tax?? Why is Kendall county among the few in the country that uses THEIR OWN employees to assess property?? Do any of u see the conflict of interest in that??!

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Jake Delrose

3:34 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Why is Kendall county one of the highest taxing counties? That is an easy question. Let me explained, Got Duped.

If you look around Kendall county, it happens to hold some of the most expensive homes around the surrounding counties. Another issue is that we do not have many companies that have made Kendall their home. Hence taxing homes for the services you receive fall upon the homeowners because no large businesses are here. If you care to find out where the money is going, ask the schools. 70+% of your real estate taxes go towards it and I bet as good as Todd is in finding issues, the school board is a treasure trove!

The county gets a very small portion and that small portion is distributed amongst all of the departments, including the Coroner's office. From what it looks like, the budget of the Coroner's office is just a little larger than the top salary for the High School Superintendent of Yorkville.

So what's the big hub-bub about the Coroner? Good question. The people of Kendall have larger fish to fry and that fish should begin with the schools. Then you might have a better understanding to the high taxes and the issues that surround it and not an office that deals with the tragedies and assistance to families.

Does that sound a little more civil?

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Got duped

10:02 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Jake, those were rhetorical questions I was giving but thanks for the civil response:) My questions were really meant to get people to focus on the bigger picture, like you referenced.

I agree large business' are lacking in the county but we have to ask ourselves why?

Kendall now has one of the highest foreclosure rates in Illinois. Well, why is that?

Kendall has one of the better school systems so people flocked to the area for that. However, Kendall built too much too fast before the large business' we needed could come in and help absorb the tax cost!

Now most of those families that came here, either walked away from their home or got foreclosed on because the taxes became ridiculously too high, to pay for the new schools and remodeling the old high school.

So, if I'm a business owner or a potential homebuyer, I'm asking myself... why would I make Kendall my place of business/residence? The taxes are 10%+ and will only get higher... the population is leaving because of the taxes... the remaining population is not spending because they have to worry about next years taxes..

So these foreclosure home will continue to sit regardless of the huge price reduction they may receive for buying the property, because people are more home savvy now since the housing collapse. Realtors will tell you people are looking at the prior year taxes before even looking at houses! Since Kendall is one of the highest in the country, WHY WOULD ANYONE MOVE HERE?!

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Jake Delrose

10:36 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

As a business person, Kendall is a get place to begin. Yes the tax base might be high but the area is great to provide a service to others. Kendall still has great potential for attracting large companies and the Economic Development team or an individual in the near future needs to have the foresight to see the "future" (not trying to sound like I can see into a crystal ball here)

Why would anyone want to move here, I ask the question Why would someone not want to move here?
You still have a small town atmosphere here that has many professional people that reside within Kendall.
Did you know that Kendall has the highest percentage of people with higher educations than the other surrounding counties? Per capita. And we do not even have a college, university, or junior college here besides a satellite campus on rt 34.

Look at the crime that Kendall has to deal with. It's not like the other counties that either cannot handle the issues or the people who live here look to do crime. We have a state's attorney willing to prosecute individuals by state statutes. Then those individuals decide to take there issues to Kane(Aurora) or Will County. Quite more lacks on laws and sentencing.

I still believe those foreclosures were due to the individuals reaching outside their financial boundaries and could not see that. It's good to purge the financial system of these people and teach others a lesson as I did with ARMs

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Jake Delrose

10:38 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

And I learned the lesson about ARMs in high school. To bad many of these individuals did not have the teacher I did or else we would not see this issue within the county.

Got duped

10:25 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Contd.... that brings me back to the fact that Kendall uses their own county assessors to value our homes. So if I'm the assessor, I gotta ask myself who do I have to please first?? My employer or the people?? My employer needs enough money FROM the people so they can continue to pay MY salary!!! Hmm, not a tough choice! So instead of property values going down, which we all can probably agree on regardless of where you live, they are staying the same or in many cases going up. How is that possible?! The county makes you go thru the appeal process so they can put you in front of the most bumbling board members I have ever witnessed!! What is the motivation for any of the board members to lower your home values since it would take away from the money bucket and possibly their own benefits?!

Its a catch 22, people are leaving because of the taxes, people wont move in because of the taxes, the taxes keep getting higher because people are leaving and not moving in... so the residents have to pick up the slack from the vacant homes which results in higher taxes, which will then cause the remaining residents to want to leave because of the taxes!! MAJOR OVERHAUL IS NEEDED!!

So Jake, you're right in the fact that many residents don't care about the coroners salary because the village budget is a small % of the taxes. Residents like me do not understand why they still have to pay up to $250-$300 per kid to register for HS when majority of the taxes are for the school?!!!

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Got duped

11:22 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012

Jake,
I agree with you 90%!! I moved here in 2009 for those exact reasons that you stated. Yes, a lot of people over extended but most of those people will tell you that it wasn't the mortgage they couldn't afford it was/is the continuing rise of the taxes.
I'm a professional too and I don't mind paying a little more to live in a safer area but there is a line and Kendall has crossed it several times over!!
No one is answering my questions!! Why is Kendall using their own employees instead of a 3rd party to value our homes!! That is a MAJOR conflict of interest!
Don't give me the default answer of "because it costs money", as I'm sure NO ONE will mind paying for a service that will get them a fair assessment on a yearly basis!
My own taxes have gone up $3000 in the past 2 years!!! Now that is absurd, especially since property values have been going down for the past 4 years!! My home is valued by the county at $300k but no one can sell their home in my neighborhood for more than $210k for the past 3yrs.

If people feel they are getting a fair value of their home they don't mind paying the higher tax rate overall since it based on a fair home value.

Right now people feel and are being cheated by the county!! This would explain why the amount of tax appeals filed in Kendall have tripled in one year!!

People see what's going on!! Eventually, rather than stay and fight the county every year to get a fair home assessment, they'll just leave! I might just join them:(

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Jake Delrose

12:13 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012

I can agree on the assessor part along with the appeals process, it does seem a little odd ballish on how they handle the cases. They are not the sole reason as being high taxes and people leaving their homes. Personal responsibility still falls on the individual. If a bank offers you a loan that has the potential to go up to double digits in percentages for interest and your monthly payments will change within a couple months, why live in that uncertainty? It was always wiser to go with a fixed.

Now we have a population influx that increased quickly and is now declining quickly of those same people that possibly changed the demographics of the county. So these same individuals are seeking assistance within the county when the county is not set up for that.

Jon Zahm

11:43 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012

Todd, One of the falsehoods you are spreading is that I am the same person as "Jake Delrose." I have no idea who that person is. I sign my own posts. Stop lying about this and stop trying to make Mr. Klimek into a bad guy. You and Steve are running perilously close to getting sued because Klimek is not a public figure and I have already explained that he could have collected a lot more that $210 for 40 hours of training classes and 10 hours of drive time. What do you suggest paying a deputy coroner for their time in training? It looks like he got paid about $4 bucks an hour.That is a below minimum wage. And a person of the high skill level of doing death investigations should be worth $25 or more an hour.

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Jake Delrose

12:27 am on Monday, September 10, 2012

Mr. Zahm,

Don't get to upset with Todd. He knows not what he does and it seems even fewer people understand what he does or says too. I find it funny that he thinks I am you. Sorry I have not met you before and you are being accused of being me. I'm sure if we stood next to each other, Todd might be able to see the difference in people but most likely not in idea over this issue.

On a side note, Is this Todd guy as disrespectful outside of the internet, as he is online? I imagine that does not win many people over for him.

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Stephen Youhanaie

1:51 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Jon, It's about procedure. If Mr. Klimek did nothing wrong then no "one year after the fact" stipend has to be created. If he did something wrong then he has earned the consequences. He is not above the rules, or the law. You, yourself said that he shouldn't have done things the way he did, and that's why they created the stipend. The extent of any criminality is up to the State's Attorney. Me, I would hope that he pay it back. Then, if he is due any money, award him the money. He should get his proper due. HE SHOULD NOT GET PAID A CENT UNTIL HE PAYS WHAT IS OWED FIRST!!!

Jake Delrose

12:30 am on Monday, September 10, 2012

Wow! Now my comments are pending approval. Never had that happen. I "wonder" who was complaining about this, Todd?

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Tim

11:49 am on Monday, September 10, 2012

Todd, you have accused public officials(and some private citizens) of being drunks and committing felony DUI, WITH NO PROOF WHATSOEVER.

You keep talking about how 'the voters' will justify your nonsense at the ballot box, yet completely ignore the resounding defeats those same voters have handed you, and those you support. You can not continue this pandering political nonsense and not expect people to catch on to how poorly your thinking process is constructed.

You honestly think that eating a meal while on city time is a 'frivolous expense'? I'll point it out again, the man-hours and time paid to the employees that have to constantly field your nonsense FOIA requests are considerably more than the amounts you are bringing up from your 'investigation'. At what point do you realize that YOU are costing the taxpayers more than you are pretending to care about in what you call the frivolous expenses of others? You have not turned up one single thing that has saved a single cent, or shown a single expense to be 'not-allowed' as the rules are currently written(not as your paranoid delusions imagine they are).

All you have done, is cost the taxpayers money, in the pursuit of backing a certain candidate under the guise of 'caring about the taxpayers'.

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Todd Milliron

12:50 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

@Tim
There you go again, (Tim 1:35 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012)
You have failed to reference the last assertion you made against me and claim I wrote, which you referenced “someone is spending money on cheap gas-station food during a conference.” Now you are throwing out another assertion about a “Felony DUI” comment I made, please provide documentation as to your new assertion which you now claim again I made by comment and then please document that prior one too. I have not posted any comment about a “Felony DUI.”

I make no apologies for filing FOIA’s and any FOIA I have filed with the county is handled by a salaried employee who has been designated as the FOIA Officer for that elected office or county dept. Since they are all salaried employees, my FOIA inquiries do not cost county taxpayers any money, it is part of that county employee’s job description and salary compensation schedule. I have yet to see you document anything, yet you continue to harp endlessly with no substance.

I have a real short memory when it comes to elections. I have moved beyond the last primary election, I suggest you do the same as we now have a general election decision to make where more than one person is actually running for a county office, an election novelty in Kendall County.

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Tim

2:27 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Todd, you need to check yourself into a hospital. There is a serious problem with your memory. Not that long ago, you were harping on the fact that the coroners office DIDNT have a FOIA officer. Now you are claiming each FOIA you submit is handled by a different full-time officer who only does this.

Which one is it Todd? Either there is a dedicated officer promptly giving you the responses to all of your requests, or there isn't a dedicated officer. You cant claim one thing one day, and one thing another day depending on which point you are trying(and failing) to make.

You are running out of memory space to keep track of all of your political 'truths', and the lose ends and contradictions are coming back to bite you in a most embarrassing way.

Your Waterloo moment is coming up soon Todd. I can't wait to see how much that audit of your political enemies ends up costing the taxpayers.

I think it is very telling that you have no problem abusing the services of the county FOIA offices, paid for by the taxpayers, to attempt to use the information gathered for purely political purposes. But someone bought a dinner that costs $34? This makes them a 'criminal' in your mind, and with no further evidence, you proceed to make these accusations of criminal acts against both public officials and private citizens.

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Todd Milliron

5:08 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

@Tim
The Kendall County Coroner's office did not have a formal FOIA Officer designated until on or about 4-22-2012. Steve Lord, reporter for the Aurora Beacon News was present the first time I went into the Kendall County Coroner's Office and when I asked who the designated FOIA Officer was. Mrs. Purcell said they did not have one, I looked at Mr. Toftoy, he then delegated that responsibility to Mrs. Purcell and he stated," I guess Mrs. Purcell you are the FOIA Officer”. Until that day, the Kendall Coroner's Office never had a FOIA Officer.

As far as prompt FOIA requests, the Kendall county Coroner's office is using every day of the 5-business day rule. Tim, my memory is quite good and I have asked you to provide some substance to your assertions about me, to date you have not documented anything, yet every time you ask me, I provide you the documentation you sought.

I have limited time. I have chosen to bring the Kendall County Coroner’s spending expenditures into the sunlight. Something no one else has done, just like in 2010, when I found questionable credit card spending and professional behavior at the Kendall County Sheriff's Dept., which I also documented. http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/kcscredit.html

Jon Zahm

1:54 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Todd, I have never met or spoken with Mr. Klimek yet, but I am going to advise him to get an attorney to consider pursuing defamation charges against you. You have crossed the line and better be correct about your charges or you may end up losing your home like Dabney, the candidate you are supporting for Coroner, His was lost via foreclosure, yours would be under an asset seizure to pay for a defamation judgment. I suggest Jillian and The Patch monitor this site more closely as their pockets are deeper than Todd's. I make my post late at night usually because I spend my daytime hours doing campaign activity that actually wins elections: door to door, mailings, phone calls, fundraising, etc. That's why I win elections and Todd does not.

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Stephen Youhanaie

2:45 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Yeah Todd, Jon wins elections...ask Dr. Tiballi of Kane County

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Stephen Youhanaie

4:31 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

oops, my bad...Tiballi didn't come in first place...sorry, Jon

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Todd Milliron

4:36 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Mr. Zahm,
I have been sued for defamation before by Don Hamman, who was the priniciple party to citing a landfill within one mile of my home. That landfill affair was a well-coordinated scheme with the City of Yorkville and the Administration of former Mayor Art Prochaska. That (SLAP) defamation lawsuit was unsuccessful and done to scare me. I assure you I am not scared of losing my home after taking on Mr. Hamman and his army of attorneys.

Please be advised I am a great "Insurance Man" and i have paid my premiums to pass certain risks onto others that are willing to assume those risks, which I have from of being a homeowner and also an active citizen, one whom just had to pay his last installment of his family’s excessive property taxes.

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Stephen Youhanaie

4:42 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Jon, now that you plan on practically daring Mr. Klimek to sue, do you plan on helping him pay for the attorney fees?

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Jake Delrose

10:10 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Mr Zahm,

Just had to look up the difference between the two and here they are:

In common law jurisdictions,
Slander refers to a malicious, false,[not specific enough to verify] and defamatory spoken statement or report.

Libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images.

Libel is the winner in this case.

Seems like Todd and Stephen have crossed the line on this, by making baseless claims, in the form of an accusatory question. Somebody could have an issue here since it's all posted online. Now that could be Game Over Man!

Who will finance Dabney now? or another candidate? Milliron could be broke! What will all of those evil politicians do since we wouldn't have Mr. Milliron to protect us with all of the FOIA requests? The Calamity!

Ralph

2:09 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

"
any FOIA I have filed with the county is handled by a salaried employee who has been designated as the FOIA Officer for that elected office or county dept. Since they are all salaried employees, my FOIA inquiries do not cost county taxpayers any money, it is part of that county employee’s job description and salary compensation schedule" - Nonsense. Your argument is only valid if that employee had nothing else to do other than fill foia request by you. Otherwise, you are taking a county employee away from donig the day to day buisness of the county. Mr. Millron, your version of logic is sadly off. Was the message in the last election not clear enough? They have clearly stated your style, brand and idea of leadership is not what the voters want. By the by, did you apologize at the last meeting for jumping the gun and calling out miscounduct that was in fact not misconduct? Your once noblel efforts are diminshed by the blather and shot gun approcach to sovling issues. while we need some help and things need to change...you sir are clearly not the answer.

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Travis McGee

2:59 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Ralph of course is correct about the county employee having nothing else to do. Filling out FOIA requests may be keeping Mrs. Purcell (the Coroner's office FOIA officer) from attending "training events" that are expensed as "office supplies."

Its amazing to me all of the energy being made to attack Todd for filling out the FOIAs. Apparently, the failure of oversight to prevent the practice of both billing gas to a county credit card while at the same time expensing the mileage to the county is acceptable practice to some on this forum. It isn't to me. If we continue to elect the same weasels into office who allow these activities, we deserve to pay among the highest property tax rates in the country.

Keep up the good work, Todd. I've shared what you've uncovered with my friends and neighbors and I have yet to find anyone who hasn't been appalled by these activities. We will be motivated voters in November.

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Oswego Resident

3:48 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Travis McGee,
Could you point me to where an employee has charged both gas and mileage for using a vehicle? I saw where Mr. Klimek charged gas for his trip to St. Louis, but not the mileage as well. Thanks.

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Tim

3:54 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

People are not attacking Todd for filling out FOIA requests, they are attacking him for filling them out for his political enemies, and then constructing a false narrative of wrongdoing WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE. His accusations have been shown to be wrong, not only in this thread, but during board meetings, yet he still persists in this methodology.

Meanwhile, he never filled out a SINGLE FOIA request for his political allies(like Anne Vickery), who was actually brought before an ethics board for her proven misuse of county resources(using county computers and time to send out her fundraising emails).

In Todd's world, this is ok because she is his political ally. Anyone that believes he is 'looking out for the taxpayers' is simply not paying attention to his actions over time(and his inaction in the face of ACTUAL wrongdoing).

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Todd Milliron

4:07 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

@ Oswego Resident - here is the mileage voucher link you requested http://yorkvilleinsider.org/Purcell/kckoronermileage.pdf

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Stephen Youhanaie

4:28 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Tim,
At least tell the whole story. Mrs. Vickery used her public email for private use. She was asking if folks wanted to go to someone else's fundraiser. It was absolutely wrong for her to do this, but at least recognize that it was not Mrs. Vickery trying to raise funds for herself.

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Jake Delrose

11:51 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012

Travis,
It's a little strange that you complain about billing of gas and mileage but didn't understand that the county was saved over a $1000. So, how much was Mr. Klimek compensated for his time down in St Louis for training by the county? Do you think that any other official from a deputy to a department head is not paid for their time at training? Here, he was clearly not paid for his time. Which one of the two scenarios would be best for taxpayers?

A: Let him collect gas and mileage
or
B: Let him return the gas credit and get paid for his time at training.

As a taxpayer, I choose A
If you cannot understand that issue now, you clearly have neither held a job or owned a business to understand laws for workers compensation of labor(and that includes training).

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Stephen Youhanaie

9:28 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

Hi Jake,
I appreciate the choices that you offer, but add one more: C. FOLLOW THE RULES FIRST. Whatever money that you are legally due, apply for it. NO MORE, NO LESS. Oh, and before I forget, here's your sign:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp People, watch and wonder why your taxes are high. HIs performance is the epitome of government without a care for the people. It has been assumed that Marie Antoinette stated "LET THEM EAT CAKE!" It didn't work out too well for her. Now, we have elections instead. After Mr. Toftoy's statements in the newspaper, it can be said that he is promoting the phrase, "LET THEM EAT STEAK!" His risk is losing the election, not his head.

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Jake Delrose

10:56 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012

Youhanaie,
There's really something funny about Mike Dabney and his supporters talking about Toftoy's work ethic and fiscal responsibilities. I recently FOIAed some information myself and guess what???
Mr Dabney has had no less then 6 disciplinary actions against him in the past 2 years that lead to suspensions and lawsuits against him and the Oswego Fire Dept. In addition, Dabney and his wife make a combined $150000 annually(Just about the same as the Coroner's office budget) from 3 incomes and he yet cannot manage to budget his own finances and lose a house.

So Youhanaie, did you yet decide to give up the idea that Dabney is better at finances? HE MAKES $150000 EVERY YEAR AND CANNOT MAKE IT RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT! YOUR ARGUMENT OF TOFTOY IS DEAD.

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Stephen Youhanaie

2:34 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Hi Jake,
What the heck are you talking about? The next thing you'll accuse Dabney of doing is walking out of the world's largest gay bar, with his son. Then you'll provide a photoshopped picture of him, and his son walking out of Wrigley Field.

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Jake Delrose

2:19 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

See Youhanaie! Your head is stuck somewhere and you cannot even begin to understand the truth about Dabney. You don't even take the time to properly vett your own candidate that you support because your hatred for one guy has clouded your judgement. You better start looking into those matters too and not just ingest the junk Todd is shoveling. Your opinions are looking like you have no idea what is happening around you!

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Tim

6:09 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

I think the most telling part of this entire comment thread is that there is not one single complaint about the job performance of the current coroner.

Todd is digging into line item expenses, used in the performance of the duties of the position, and 'complaining' that money is being spent. Nothing will ever satisfy Todd, as this is not about money, it is about Todds personal frustrations that he continues to be handed his hat by the voting public.

The fact that Todd fails to mention, is that this office is UNDERFUNDED compared to surrounding communities/counties. Instead of trying to get the best service for the dollar spent(not the cheapest), Todd is wandering off the path into the world of obsessing over the minutiae of gasoline purchases, and using childish nicknames for the victims of his political stalking; 'kenny' 'kenny boy', 'boss hog', and on and on.

No rational voter, without the mighty personal axe to grind as Todd seems to have, looks at any of these 'complaints' as a reason the current office holder is not fit for the job. What they see instead, is a petty attack by a petty man, who while his intentions were once in the right place, have veered off into irrelevance.

I think its long past time for Todd to stand up and say he will drop this pettiness if his candidate loses the election in less than 60 days. Todd, you can go all out and full speed ahead with whatever tactic you want, but the day after the election, you have to HONOR voters wishes.

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Todd Milliron

6:41 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

@Tim,
If Mr. Toftoy's Kendall County Coroner's office is so underfunded, please explain why Mr. Toftoy was able to cut $3000 in training expenses in the video above as he bumbled his way through his FY 2013 Budget Presentation to the Kendall County Board Finance Committee.

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Jake Delrose

10:12 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

180 of those viewings by Todd.

Stephen Youhanaie

6:53 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

Yes, it is all about his job performance, as the Coroner, and the Republican Leader of the Kendall County Republicans. So ill prepared. Such a lack of command. He's personally a nice guy, but he doesn't want to do his job. If he did, he would have been able to swat any comments from the Finance Committee. What's worse is they were being nice to him, and he doesn't have that many line items to his budget. Is this the best that my fellow Republicans can offer? Any objective observer, with a background in the budgeting process would be shocked at such a performance. He wants 4 more years? He doesn't care now; why should the public vote for him?

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Stephen Youhanaie

6:56 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

Clearly shows that he is OVERFUNDED, by Mr. Toftoys own words, not Tim's/Todd's/Vickery's/Mine/Zahm's/Ralph's/ Travis/Oswego Resident/Jake/or anybody else.

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Tim

7:02 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

The women asking him questions were not even aware of what the IRS was, and why the methods of payment had to be changed. I imagine it would be difficult for him to be prepared for such astounding ignorance. It is also why these women lost their respective elections in the primary (as incumbents no less).

Feel free to point out the results of poor job performance. Dealing with ignorance board members is not his primary job function. Where are the news stories about the lawsuits the coroners office has lost because of not following proper procedures. Where are the cases that the coroners office has caused to be dismissed due to poor handling of a scene of death?

There are no such instances. THIS is what people care about. They don't care about your claims of someone 'milking the taxpayers' who is actually doing their job and spending money during the course of those activities. They don't care about your obviously transparent political nonsense. Not one single thing has been addressed as to the actual functions of this job, giving voters further confirmation that these attacks are completely irrelevant. The coroners job is not to placate the county board, or even respond eloquently to their obvious confusion. These are secondary duties, and the fact you are attempting to make them seem like the primary duties by over-inflating their significance shows that you also have no idea what the duties of the office entail.

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Jake Delrose

11:36 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Nice? That's some tough friends he has in his circles. Nice is not the word I would use.

One question: If the guy has been in there for over 20 years, where have all you critics been the past 2 decades? That's how you know you have band wagon participants in the complaining department from the author and his Cool Aid drinking parrots. They just repeat the same complaint and it sticks to the wall like jello!

Got duped

7:06 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Ok... Umm, I just watched the video. Did I just hear they had $8k in "discretionary" funds??! Also did I hear there was a total of $18k in surplus to do whatever?! These are the professionals of Kendall County?! This is a joke!! Certainly showing this video at our association meeting this month

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Stephen Youhanaie

7:18 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

I hope you do, then maybe your association will wake up, and get involved in the electoral process.

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Tim

7:58 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

to do whatever... if 'whatever' means the stated reason in the video (about 10 seconds later) to purchase a new vehicle for the office in the next fiscal year, then yes.... its to do whatever.

I can't imagine why you left out that he specifically identified the purchase of a new vehicle as the reason for keeping that money on-hand, and that because of state laws the purchase can not happen until next fiscal year. It's almost like the person in charge of the office knows how to properly run, manage, and fund his own office and is able to anticipate for long-term expenses.

So, no. You did not hear the surplus was to 'do whatever' with. You made that part up all on your own.

When you talk to your association, perhaps you would be better served by looking closer at the language of the local SSA's, and how many have signed an agreement when they 'bought' their home acknowledging these taxes would increase every year by a certain percentage, to be included in the tax bill.

For all this talk about 'fiscal responsibility' there sure doesn't seem to much coming from those who demand it the loudest. What percent of your fellow residents also agreed to this in their SSA's, yet also signed the 'cut taxes 20%' petition? Were they confused? Forgetful? Not paying attention? And from the likes of these groups, we get people like Todd, and Stephen Y, and you. Sorry, but I don't think someone with the attention span of a goldfish is going to make sound fiscal choices.

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Todd Milliron

8:24 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

@Got dupe
You heard right. There is substantial and considerable mail-it-in-entitlement arrogance, spending waste and incompetent mismanagement within the current Kendall County Coroner's office. An elected office ran by 20-year incumbent Ken Toftoy, who has never faced any review of his office or spending scrutiny during any general election these past 20 years.

There is no problem in making a 20 percent cut from the Kendall County Coroners office's proposed FY13 budget. It can be done EASY, without having to make any sacrifice in needed services for those who must face the death of a loved one or the sudden loss of life. Where is that “Staples-Easy Button,” all one has to do is vote, “Ya that was EASY.”

Got duped, it starts with your informed vote, and then making that conscious decision to tell others, what you know. Please help inform others and share the information you know as fact. You as a voter now have a cost effective option for Kendall County Coroner, his name is Mike Dabney, exercise that option, let’s send a message to other elected officials at school board, township and city/village levels of government as their turn is next in Spring 2013.

Open up your email address book, then share with others. You now have a true choice in candidates; compare and contrast, decide whom you will vote for. Make a commitment to yourself to talk with others, they too will value your opinion, and they too will pass on the information you have learned and shared.

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Jake Delrose

10:19 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Got Duped,

This is not a very high number for discretionary funds. Run a business and that number can remain there until it is used. If it is not used it remains there like a line of credit to cover unforeseen costs related to operations.

Now the question should be was the money used? And what for?

From budget year to budget year, it has to remain in the budget unless used. If you remove it, it will have to go to another budget, in another department and that can potentially short that budget in case an issue comes about from that department that has been shorted. Then let's say you have a problem in that department say a car goes dead. That money is now gone and then we have to wait to allocate the funds again when it should have been there to avoid issues.

That's why we need it in the budget and that goes with any budget.

Stephen Youhanaie

7:12 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

You prove my point again, thank you Tim. Don't put words in my mouth, they are "the peoples" documents that make the claims, not my accusations. They speak for themselves. People want competent government. If Ken couldn't handle these weak questions by this board (of which 2 are retiring, and 2 lost the primary), what does that speak of him? A countywide official is/or should be an engaged administrator. He failed miserably on that count. Against weak opposition.

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Tim

7:45 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

What questions exactly, did he not answer? I see a bunch of confused board members, but that's about all.

You have not addressed one single thing about the duties that the job actually entails. Illinois code explicitly states that once the board allocates the money, they have absolutely no say whatsoever over these 'line-items' you and Todd keep trying to distract everyone with. It has literally ZERO significance to any point you are trying to make.

The IL code is explicitly written down on the first page of the coroners section of the budget.(page 42)
"55 ILCS 5/3-3003 The county coroner shall control the
internal operations of his office.[...] Compensation of deputies
and employees shall be fixed by the coroner [...]"

Did you not notice the part where it explicitly defines that the board has no say whatsoever over the internal pay structure of the office? You must have skipped over it, because it would be embarrassing to continue trying to argue the point you are, if you actually understood the office. Meanwhile, Todd is trying to claim it is a felony, because of his misunderstanding of the office.

You keep trying to make issues out of things that are not only irrelevant, they are actually specifically listed as NOT being relevant by the IL state code. It is just one more way you will talk about anything other than the actual duties of the office, because in reality you have no idea what it entails.

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Jake Delrose

11:44 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Tim,

Don't give such strong facts to Yo-yo. He will just post the video again thinking that it validates his argument. And I am still trying to understand what video his is watching. I think it's the Todd Milliron edited copy because Yo-yo keeps leaving specific sections out of his argument or the details.

Stephen Youhanaie

7:51 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

Again, as I said before, you keep coming up with non-sense, I'll keep posting this video. Let the reader/viewer decide

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Tim

8:12 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

please do keep posting it. It will give everyone an idea of the kinds of twisted logic you must have to see that as a negative for Mr Toftoy.

You can even hear the audience sneering at multiple points at the two board members who don't seem to understand they have no authority whatsoever over these line items. If you missed it, turn up the volume a little bit, or get someone younger that can hear higher frequencies. No matter how many times it is explained to them, this information doesn't seem to be making its way into their long-term memory. I imagine this is why the IL law that dictates they have zero reason to focus on line items it is actually printed right in the budget for the coroners office. I do see why incumbents on the board could not get elected to their own party ticket. The voters aren't clueless... you are. The voters decisively booted them(and Todd) in the last election.

Please! Post your as a reply to every comment I make, get it out to everyone.

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Travis McGee

8:55 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

LOL at the Bill Engvall reference! Although I think Jeff Foxworthy might be more appopriate in this instance...

If you believe that it is acceptable to dine lavishly on meals of Filet Mignon and Escargot while attending training events, you just might be a Ken Toftoy supporter.

If you believe that it is acceptable for employees in your office to pay for gas with a county credit card while subsequently billing the taxpayers for mileage, you just might be a Ken Toftoy supporter.

If you believe that it is unnecessary for county officials to track the sick leave and vacation time of their subordinates and then grant whatever paid maternity leave their subordinate requires, you just might be a Ken Toftoy supporter.

If you believe in cronyism; that you should hire your friends in county positions and spend taxpayers' money in their businesses (yep, when I need to purchase bottled water, the first place I think of to buy it is John Purcell's Ace Hardware store), you just might be a Ken Toftoy supporter.

Thank you very much. I'll be here all week. Try the veal and don't forget to tip your coroner.

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Jake Delrose

11:51 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Hey Travis, I gotta good one here for you

If you support a candidate that has a foreclosure on his record, all while jabbing your opponent on fiscal responsibility, You might be a Michael Dabney voter/campaign manager/financier.

If you cost the county thousands of dollars for FOIAs for witch hunts that lead to ruining the challenger's name and losing an election disastrously for him, You might be a Michael Dabney voter/campaign manager/financier.

This is pretty good! I enjoy this!

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Stephen Youhanaie

8:28 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

HI Jake,

Here's your sign:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

Please refrain from referring to me as Yo-Yo. I don't play the cello, and I have not called anybody a name in my postings. No, it wasn't edited, as I was at the meeting.

Stephen Youhanaie

7:57 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

over 200 views, not enough to enlighten the whole county. Folks, just email this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWTw54tWYo&feature=plcp

Let your friends get the choice of judging how competent our local government operates. What ever you get from it, you get.

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Got duped

8:24 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Tim,
Maybe you should know who you're insulting before you insult them. You are not helping your candidate by insulting everyone that makes a comment that is not to your liking. To answer you question, NO he did not explain what the $18k was for UNTIL AFTER the committee did the math on his hack job of a budget plan!! Why is it not in the report, Tim?? If he "knew" he would have that large of a surplus why not put it in the report in black and white, w/o the members having to pick his thoughts out of his brain?? Why does the head guy look "lost" and seems like he's "winging it" the whole time. It looks very unprofessional to "our lil 'ol association!"... So congrats Tim, ur candidate will now have our FULL attention!

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Tim

9:06 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

Aside from the fact that you are obviously incredibly new to even looking at the office, lets pretend for just one second that what is in your field of perception is all that reality actually consists of. Otherwise, its going to be hard for you to accept that this was discussed LAST YEAR. You must have missed the part where the board member was aware of this expense BEFORE Toftoy even stated it in your video.

The head guy might look 'lost' to you, because you have a problem decoding body language in social situations, and are externalizing your own inner shortcomings onto others. See! It's fun to just throw around accusations without any proof whatsoever.

Kevin Wagner

9:09 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

It is difficlult to know who you are insulting when you hide behind a "nom de plume"

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Got duped

11:10 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012

@That guy who seems to be very angry all time, I may not be a political "lackey" like yourself but the video is pretty clear. Regardless, you have your opinion, just like I have mine. I will make my choice along with, my "lil 'ol association" members that live in the township with one of the highest tax rates, that will read this blog and look at the video. I've noticed ALL of your comments are negative which sounds like you're not just happy with your life. At least Jake, who also didn't fully agree with my comments, but simply stated his point without all the nonsense. I say that not as a jab but as a "newbie" who just happened to stumble on this blog and voiced his opinion. Enjoy your life online. BTW, @that other guy who wants to use a long word to say something simple, I'm glad you have access to Wikipedia!! @Todd, regardless of what your motivations are keep bringing the DOCUMENTED facts to the table! People like me are watching but probably won't respond because of the weirdos on here, but we will VOTE!!

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Jake Delrose

12:01 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Hey got duped, Just remember my name is Jon Zahm/ Jake Del Rose to Mr. Milliron. Hey Milliron! Have some respect and spell my last name correctly. Delrose.

Just remember about those "DOCUMENTED facts" You must understand fully the scope of the office and relationships with the board members. From what I hear, Ken has little likeability from several board members and it has nothing to do with his ability to do the job. Several individuals lost elections and are heading out of office and they blame him directly. So, under the bus you go to Mr. Toftoy, as some of those board members are doing. Look at the frustration on this guys face that is caused by this board. He knows these people will be gone and understands they are getting their last jabs in.

Now who is going to deny that story? No One Will! Because its the truth. This has nothing to do with line items or steak dinners.
Again, this budget is no larger than the top high school administrator in Yorkville and all of this is because someone has a grudge and has twisted stories to the point of this whole article being a libel suit against someone.

Tim

1:59 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Jake, that information(if true), needs to be posted on every single post that Todd makes. Let it join the list of poor decisions Todd has made because he thought that his misunderstanding of something in his own mind, led him to behave in public as if it was the truth.

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