Legal gun fire near two Oswego schools?

I found out today that Crossroads Community Church of Fox Valley has been firing guns and killing geese on their property, which happens to be adjacent to our neighborhood park, as well as two District 308 public schools. When the police were called, they were shown a permit that the church obtained from the city. I am very surprised the City of Aurora would approve of this.
Meta Damm Mueller December 23, 2013 at 08:19 PM
The church is located at the intersection of Eola Road and Wold Crossing. It is directly across the street from Wolf Crossing Elementary and Bednarcik Jr. High. It is also across the street from Amber Fields Neighborhood Park.
Jeff Benson December 23, 2013 at 08:44 PM
I agree that this is disturbing and unacceptable. I live in this neighborhood as well with my four children - not to mention that the geese are beautiful.
Walt Hines December 25, 2013 at 02:28 AM
Now there's a church I'd want to be a part of. What a very Christian thing to do, KILL INNOCENT BIRDS. They congregate in flocks, hmmm. I find this disgusting and terribly dangerous. When the gaggle is spooked they will fly in multiple directions which could endanger passing cars. We're all Gods creatures. Maybe they should open up that bible they're preaching. Don't like the poop, that's part of nature which the good Lord created. This area was their feeding ground and they are doing what God intended them to do. To all the neighbors make a phone call to news stations, you might get some action that will help all of you. I send my prayers that you children are protected from any stray bullets that might pass by. This is a real bad idea, especially near a school and kids!
Hector December 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Walt, geese are hunted with shotgun, by law. No Hollywood type bullets ricocheting here....no assault rifles or semi-auto pistols, just plain old shotguns that have a very limited range. Believe it or not, most hunters are responsible gun owners and would never shoot towards a school or a house, and the guns don't just take off on killing sprees by themselves, contrary to popular belief.
Walt Hines December 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM
They're called " buck shots" and nothing is a 100% guarantee here. Accidents happen and when your talking school and children involved it's a bad idea. We're not in a wide open area in upstate Wisconsin hunting geese. We're in a residential area with a play ground for area children. I'd love to hear the Christian reason for shooting the flocks. To put dinner on the table for the parishioners of their congregation, hhmmm.
Hector December 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Actually,when hunting fowl, the shell is loaded with what is called buckshot, and it is comprised of little lead or steel balls. A deer slug, which is used solely for deer, is a solid slug, which would totally destroy a goose, leaving nothing but a mess. That being said, while the "what about the children" line makes for good drama, I am sure that no one is shooting geese when children are around. I bet the permit even states such.
Walt Hines December 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM
I actually am a FOID card caring owner. Unless we know who's doing the "hunting" we have no idea what's being used and how. Still not buying the excuses here. Bad idea in a residential area. If this were my neighborhood I'd be concerned as well. I see a 5:00 news story here.
Mike Francis December 26, 2013 at 02:56 PM
Walt- try Genesis 1:26 for starters. Certainly, shooting geese for the protection of people is a reasonable thing to do. And I can't help but notice that the rest of your rant is predicting something that simply has not happened.
Meta Damm Mueller December 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM
I spoke with our Alderman and he checked into it. He found out this: The Church inadvertently gave permission to a few people to hunt on the land without the consent or authority of the City. The Church has quickly withdrawn such permission. I will continue to monitor this issue to make sure it is fully resolved. Prior to my email exchange with him, my neighbor who had contacted the church was told differently. I'm so relieved to hear that the church was not intentional in these actions. I think that we have a great community here and I think the only thing we all want is to protect and be as secure as possible in the knowledge that we do our best for our kids.
Natalie Stevens (Editor) December 27, 2013 at 01:26 PM
Hi everyone, I just spoke with a City official and this is the official word: http://oswego.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/geese-hunting-at-crossroads-church-ceased-discussion-to-follow In a nutshell, the permit was issued by the IDNR, not the City, and the church was within their rights to hunt on private property. However, due to the proximity to some areas, discussions to follow on how to control the geese problem.
Jamie Glass December 27, 2013 at 03:05 PM
The church was given a permit, however gun shots fired towards my home (so close I could see their faces) is not acceptable. Also, they were shooting during school hours last week and students made comments. This is not acceptable even if a permit was given. The church made some poor choices without considering the proximity of the homes and the sound of the guns during school hours. As a teacher myself, students are scared by the fire alarms and most recently shootings throughout the United States in elementary and high schools. I hope the church is more sensitive to the homes on Pagosa Springs Drive and the elementary/middle school across the street. I spoke with a church representative and suggested weekend shootings only, however was told my church that services are being held as well as sledding activities. I was disappointed by that answer and hope the church can re look at other times in the day for their shootings and/or give the schools and neighborhood a courtesy warning. To be very clear, the shootings on 12/23 were right outside my kitchen window facing south and scared myself and 2 oldest (toddlers). In the past, shootings were heard from a far distance and were not as loud or scary and did not cause me concern. Monday's shootings did cause me to lean down under the window because I did not know if it was an explosion.
Mel December 29, 2013 at 02:30 AM
I'm a gun owner and I believe we should have the right to carry and protect ourselves. With that said I do not agree with hunting or shooting around schools or highly populated areas for sport. A gun does not fire by itself and when someone fires the shotgun people have different abilities. Depending on the size of the buckshot, the angle and the velocity it leaves the gun...A max. range (not max effective range) is around 800-900 yards. I would not want someone shooting around my child's school.


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